Mathmatical Proof of God

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Trek385

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Proof of God

Mathematical proof of God !

This is the simplest and most powerful proof of God there is – no one with any ability to reason could say there isn’t a God after reading this !

A simple equation:

2% + 2% = 4%

2% of Carbon + 2% of Oxygen = Carbon Dioxide

1% of Carbon + 1% of Oxygen = Carbon Dioxide

0% of Carbon + 0% Oxygen = Nothing

So what does this mean ?

This means, that according to simple maths, 1 + 1 = 2, ergo 1% + 1% = 2%

Forgeting Evolution for now, How did the Universe begin ?

How could matter have been created ?

If 1% of matter (or even anti-matter, or dark matter or any substance or sound wave or light wave or anything) + 1% of something else could possibly in about 10 to the power of infinity chance create a ‘Big Bang’, which then in turn would create in astronomically impossible odds the world, the galaxies and the solar systems, then it must be understood that:

0% of matter (sound waves, light waves or anything) + 0% of anything = Nothing (ABSOLUTE 0% of ANYTHING)

There is no point of origin for the creation of Anything – it is scientifically impossible to create anything (to cause the Big Bang) from Nothing !

THERE WAS NO SUBSTANCE OF ANY KIND TO CREATE THE BIG BANG

IF THERE WAS A SUBSTANCE TO CREATE THE BIG BANG – HOW WAS IT CREATED – ACCORDING TO MATHMATICS IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE 0% + 0% = 0% !

This leaves only one alternative:
A Creator !
Something, Somone outside of the laws of Science – that Created Scientific laws – A God – The most powerful Scientific Mind in the Universe !

This is absolute proof that there is a Creator

When people stand before the Judgment seat of God, all the Creator has to say to them is:

“Did you understand mathematics – even the simplest form of mathematics ? Then you are without excuse ! ”

Because with this knowledge it should prompt the person to genuinely seek if there is a God.

If you want to know If there is a God, please pray this prayer (You have nothing to lose by praying this prayer, except a few moments of your time, and it is wise, considering that the greatest gamble in life is whether there is a life after death or not !)

“God, I realize that the Universe is the greatest and most astounding thing in Creation, and I realize that there is every chance that it was Created, and not made by accident.
So, if you are real, please show me in some way, whether through wisdom, understanding, miracle or anything.
Please help me to understand how to obey you if you are truly the Creator.
Also help me to understand which is the right religion, and if Jesus is the true Way to God.”

(It is important to understand that the way of God is to work in the understanding of the person, as well as working out circumstances. Some are privileged to receive miraculous signs from God, and there are many testimonies of these things, the reason God works like this is because God is trying to develop understanding for the person on a natural level)

Based on all the evidence, which is beyond overwhelming, for God, it would be unwise not to seek for some answers about who God is and the meaning of life !

You can download a free MP3 NIV Audio Bible, to learn more about the wisdom of God, and about what Jesus taught here:
www .revolution385 .com/videos
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One quick question.
What was this all powerful god made up of and how did he/she arise as the greatest thing ever from a little bit of oxygen and hydrogen?

p.s don't bother with an answer.
 
Trek385 said:
Mathematical proof of God !
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You cannot prove god mathematically.
The only thing you can prove with mathematics is mathematics.

This is the simplest and most powerful proof of God there is – no one with any ability to reason could say there isn’t a God after reading this !
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Let's try your hypothesis: there isn't a god.
Oops, looks like you're wrong...

2% of Carbon + 2% of Oxygen = Carbon Dioxide
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Ever wondered why it's called carbon DIoxide?
Ever considered it's because there's 2 oxygen for each carbon?

IF THERE WAS A SUBSTANCE TO CREATE THE BIG BANG – HOW WAS IT CREATED – ACCORDING TO MATHMATICS IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE 0% + 0% = 0% !
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Presumably you meant to write "if there was NO substance..."
One possible answer here.

This leaves only one alternative:
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No it doesn't.

This is absolute proof that there is a Creator
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Keep trying.

When people stand before the Judgment seat of God, all the Creator has to say to them is:
“Did you understand mathematics – even the simplest form of mathematics ?”
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And if he should exist and ask you that question you'll be able to reply "Not really".

Because with this knowledge it should prompt the person to genuinely seek if there is a God.
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Slight fault in your logic here.
If you've just proved god exists why would anyone now seek (genuinely or otherwise) to see if there is one?

If you want to know If there is a God, please pray this prayer (You have nothing to lose by praying this prayer, except a few moments of your time, and it is wise, considering that the greatest gamble in life is whether there is a life after death or not !)
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Again with the faulty logic. And prayer has been shown to do... nothing.

Based on all the evidence, which is beyond overwhelming
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You and I obviously have differing definitions of "overwhelming".
 
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Hey, it seems the original message was cross-posted to a forum I a moderator of. I thought I'd share my thoughts with you. I just created an account and don't have enough user points to post a link. But if you visit geeksandgod dot com the "Absoulte Proof of God !" thread will be in the "Web Evangelism" forum. The gist of my argument is this:

"For the record, I do believe God created the universe. Unfortunately:
a) there is not "only one alternative"; in fact there are an infinite number of possibilities no one has even imagined, b) even if there was a way to "prove" nature was created, this in no way indicates the God of the Bible was responsible, c) even if one could prove God did create, this does not prove God remains today."

Blessings!

-NP
 
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That "proof" is idiotic. The universe is balanced between energy and gravitational potential energy. In other words, it looks like it came from nothing.

0=1+(-1)

Therefore, no creator.
 
spidergoat said:
That "proof" is idiotic. The universe is balanced between energy and gravitational potential energy. In other words, it looks like it came from nothing.

0=1+(-1)

Therefore, no creator.
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One can tell by how people explain the existence of God revealing their so called proof is idiotic. If these people do talk to God then he can't communicate through them cogently.

edit/add: Considering the actions by some and the history maybe its time God be declared insane.
 
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So, basically, you're just doing the Teleological Argument, which even us theists acknowledge is a really, really crappy proof and should be avoided.
 
Hapsburg said:
So, basically, you're just doing the Teleological Argument, which even us theists acknowledge is a really, really crappy proof and should be avoided.
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Theists really, really crappy proof doesn't compare to truth and should be avoided.
 
Trek385 said:
Proof of God

Mathematical proof of God !

This is the simplest and most powerful proof of God there is – no one with any ability to reason could say there isn’t a God after reading this !

A simple equation:

2% + 2% = 4%

2% of Carbon + 2% of Oxygen = Carbon Dioxide

1% of Carbon + 1% of Oxygen = Carbon Dioxide

0% of Carbon + 0% Oxygen = Nothing

So what does this mean ?

This means, that according to simple maths, 1 + 1 = 2, ergo 1% + 1% = 2%

Forgeting Evolution for now, How did the Universe begin ?

How could matter have been created ?

If 1% of matter (or even anti-matter, or dark matter or any substance or sound wave or light wave or anything) + 1% of something else could possibly in about 10 to the power of infinity chance create a ‘Big Bang’, which then in turn would create in astronomically impossible odds the world, the galaxies and the solar systems, then it must be understood that:

0% of matter (sound waves, light waves or anything) + 0% of anything = Nothing (ABSOLUTE 0% of ANYTHING)

There is no point of origin for the creation of Anything – it is scientifically impossible to create anything (to cause the Big Bang) from Nothing !

THERE WAS NO SUBSTANCE OF ANY KIND TO CREATE THE BIG BANG

IF THERE WAS A SUBSTANCE TO CREATE THE BIG BANG – HOW WAS IT CREATED – ACCORDING TO MATHMATICS IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE 0% + 0% = 0% !

This leaves only one alternative:
A Creator !
Something, Somone outside of the laws of Science – that Created Scientific laws – A God – The most powerful Scientific Mind in the Universe !

This is absolute proof that there is a Creator

When people stand before the Judgment seat of God, all the Creator has to say to them is:

“Did you understand mathematics – even the simplest form of mathematics ? Then you are without excuse ! ”

Because with this knowledge it should prompt the person to genuinely seek if there is a God.

If you want to know If there is a God, please pray this prayer (You have nothing to lose by praying this prayer, except a few moments of your time, and it is wise, considering that the greatest gamble in life is whether there is a life after death or not !)

“God, I realize that the Universe is the greatest and most astounding thing in Creation, and I realize that there is every chance that it was Created, and not made by accident.
So, if you are real, please show me in some way, whether through wisdom, understanding, miracle or anything.
Please help me to understand how to obey you if you are truly the Creator.
Also help me to understand which is the right religion, and if Jesus is the true Way to God.”

(It is important to understand that the way of God is to work in the understanding of the person, as well as working out circumstances. Some are privileged to receive miraculous signs from God, and there are many testimonies of these things, the reason God works like this is because God is trying to develop understanding for the person on a natural level)

Based on all the evidence, which is beyond overwhelming, for God, it would be unwise not to seek for some answers about who God is and the meaning of life !

You can download a free MP3 NIV Audio Bible, to learn more about the wisdom of God, and about what Jesus taught here:
www .revolution385 .com/videos
(remove spaces to load web page)
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This is completly correct. Do not bother with lesser minds, they tend not to function properly in the right day and age.
 
spidergoat said:
That "proof" is idiotic. The universe is balanced between energy and gravitational potential energy. In other words, it looks like it came from nothing.

0=1+(-1)

Therefore, no creator.
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That's the dumbest thing I have ever seen anyone post on this forum, by far.
 
2% of Carbon + 2% of Oxygen = Carbon Dioxide

1% of Carbon + 1% of Oxygen = Carbon Dioxide

0% of Carbon + 0% Oxygen = Nothing

So what does this mean ?
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Although the general nonsense nature of the post deflects any attempt to actually think about it, that particular series of "calculations" seemed particularly weird.

The only sense I can make out of it is that the entire physical and mathematical world exists, for this poster, as a metaphor for something - a malleable, fluid, adjustable metaphor, with no meaning to its nouns other than their significance as hypnotic setters of rhetorical context. (percentages of what? Are we supposed to be envisioning equal molar quantities of Carbon and Oxygen in the formation of carbon 'di'oxide? )

The imitation of the form of reason or logical argument, without the content (meaningful terms, meaningful premises, etc) seems to me an interesting species of cargo cult. It had not occurred to me before just how exact the parallel was, in this common manifestation of Western theistic culture.
 
Argumentative Lazarus

Years ago, I pointed out that one of the differences between religion and science is that science is an ongoing process that hasn't finished yet. The Bible, for instance, was set in stone almost 1,700 years ago. Nothing new under the sun from that corner.

As to science, though? Stay tuned. It's an ongoing process that doesn't magically skip to the end.

According to the story, even Lazarus only rose from the dead once. Yet this silly "Where did the Big Bang come from?" argument keeps coming out of its cave every time a religious person decides he's clever.
 
It's like this boys and girls: the Big Bang didn't come from anything or anywhere. It is the everything and everywhere - this may be a bit hard to explain to yourself.

I guess it means the universe exists now because it existed "then" but we can't prove that there is such a thing as "past events", except where we can logically predict future events - like someone finding fault with this post.

Unless of course you can show that secondary forms of propositions are also a priori true, in some type of hmm, secondary universal logic.
 
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