Masturbation is for Losers

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Happeh:

Let's go back to basics for a minute.

You say Bill Gates and Donald Rumsfeld masterbate. You've shown us pictures which are supposed to support your theory. But you've only given half the evidence.

You've shown that certain people have certain bodily characteristics, such as tilted heads and sunken faces. But you have not yet proven that any of these people masterbate.

Please provide your evidence that either Bill Gates or Donald Rumsfeld masterbates excessively. This must be in the form of independent evidence that does NOT rely on Happeh theory, since you can't prove something by assuming what you are trying to prove in the first place.

If you can't prove that Bill or Ronny masterbate by means other than Happeh theory, then please give us at least one example where the masterbation CAN be verified independently. Note: it is not enough to say "this person is a prostitute and therefore must have excessive masterbation".
 
James R said:
Happeh:
Note: it is not enough to say "this person is a prostitute and therefore must have excessive masterbation".

So you want me to find a person who will voluntarily stand still and say "I masturbate alot", while I point at what they have done to themselves?

Are you going to pay them? No one is going to do that for free. I could probably get a prostitute to do something like that if I pay them enough. How much will your budget cover? You pay the money up front before I make a deal with the person.
 
Happeh, I am proud to announce that you have exceeded URI's entertainment level. Keep up the good work.
 
James R said:
You say Bill Gates and Donald Rumsfeld masterbate. You've shown us pictures which are supposed to support your theory. But you've only given half the evidence.

I've said that about five times, but thank you for stating it clearly enough that it cannot be ignored, the way my objections were.
 
Happeh said:
So you want me to find a person who will voluntarily stand still and say "I masturbate alot", while I point at what they have done to themselves?

Are you going to pay them? No one is going to do that for free. I could probably get a prostitute to do something like that if I pay them enough. How much will your budget cover? You pay the money up front before I make a deal with the person.
i gave you a link that provides research grants
no ones fault but your owh happeh.
 
James R said:
If you can't prove that Bill or Ronny masterbate by means other than Happeh theory, then please give us at least one example where the masterbation CAN be verified independently. Note: it is not enough to say "this person is a prostitute and therefore must have excessive masterbation".
i have ask him a similar question twice james

specificly
how do you know these people masturbate
do they tell you or do you watch

and he never answered it
 
Happeh said:
You identify yourself for everyone. A motheaten old grump. You need to add senile to the end of that for it to be completely correct.
I should like to apologise to Duendy. The rest of my identifier was supplied by her. Duendy, by incorporating Happeh's outstanding recommendation into your words I am in no way implying any similarity between the two of you. Whilst you (Duendy) are, in my opinion, screwed up in your world view, you are decidedly sincere and genuine and not entirely stupid. Happeh on the other hand (if I may use that phrase in a thread on masturbation) is a complete nutter.

Leopold, thank you for noting my absence. When travelling I have little free time, so unless my hotel room has reasonable connection rates to the internet I go incommunicado for days or weeks at a time.
 
the international man of mystery has returned
i suggest we find ourselves a couple of low mileage pit wolfies and help them build a memory.
 
Happeh said:
You have no expereince with the human body that bears on this discussion.
is that why you have me on ignore? because i have the experience? lots of it?
it doesn't matter happeh, i can still refut what you say.
and thats what i am here to do.
you have NO experience with what you are talking about.

i especially liked the posts from huwy about what you have been posting on other boards.
they give insight about your mentality
as if nobody already knows
 
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cole grey said:
I've said that about five times, but thank you for stating it clearly enough that it cannot be ignored, the way my objections were.

What is your explanation? Other than "that is the way it is", or "just because", or "everyone does that"? Surely, since you are setting such high standards of evidence for me, you can see the childisness of the above 3 reasons?

My reason, wrong or right, is a detailed and thought out explanation for what I observe.

What all of you are doing is saying "I don't know what causes the things you point out. But I am absolutely certain you are wrong because there is no way you could be right".

That about sums up the reasoning of my detractors.
 
In todays post, we will again employ that basic tool of science. Observation. Yesterday, the example of a woman was posted

Example01.jpg


The difference in the level of the hips was noted. The rotation of the head to the right was noted. The large circular appearing section gone from the side of the torso was commented on. The woman's employment as a model was noted. This is because it is common for people in modeling or hollywood to be very sexually active in order to get a job.

Here is another woman who is a model or a sex worker.

Example02.jpg


This woman shows the same general posture as the first woman. The hips are not level. The head twist to the right. There is a large hole or gap on the right side of the torso, while the left side of the torso appears vertically straight.

This is science guys. What can I say? Observe the subject that you are interested in. Record the observations. Offer explanations for what you see. Science. Chemistry experiment in 8th grade.
 
And on a personal note. This is how I feel about many of the people who comment about my theory. This was written by someone else about marketing people. I altered it a small bit to make it fit here.

It is my opinion it is impossible to talk to psychologists or psychiatrists. They spend their time thinking about what they believe a person's motivations are, instead of listening to and discussing the subject at hand.


“By the way if anyone here is in psychiatry or psychology… kill yourself. No, no, no it’s just a little thought. I’m just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they’ll take root - I don’t know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself. Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really, there’s no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan’s little helpers, Okay - kill yourself - seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you’re going, “there’s going to be a joke coming,” there’s no fucking joke coming. You are Satan’s spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked and you are fucking us. Kill yourself. It’s the only way to save your fucking soul, kill yourself. Planting seeds. I know all the psychology people are going, “he’s doing a joke… there’s no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a friend - I don’t care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking machinations. I know what all the psychology people are thinking right now too, “Oh, you know what Bill’s doing, he’s going for that
anti-psychology angle. That’s a good feeling, he’s very smart.” Oh man, I am not doing that. You fucking evil scumbags! “Ooh, you know what Bill’s doing now, he’s going for the righteous indignation . That’s a big motivator. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We’ve done research - huge audience. He’s doing a good thing.” Godammit, I’m not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a godamm motivation on every fucking thing on this planet! “Ooh, the anger. Huge. Huge impact on people. Giant audience, Bill’s very bright to do that.” God, I’m just caught in a fucking web! “Ooh the trapped, the paranoid, the delusional. Good market - look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the
trapped…” How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fucking babies at night, don’t you?”
 
Duendy sez to Happeh:

Happeh, you are talkin nonesense...

So, where do YOU draw the line between fantasy and fantasy?
 
The difference in the level of the hips was noted. The rotation of the head to the right was noted. The large circular appearing section gone from the side of the torso was commented on.

All noted, but with a wrong explanation. I just personally think you've never actually seen a real human. Spend some time watching people dance, move, talk, express themselves and you will see everything you've mentioned is entirely natural and no indication of masturbation, drugs or rock and roll.

You also seemingly need to learn how advertising works. The simply reality of the situation is that 'sex sells'. Of course that doesn't mean that every advert for a car, chocolate bar and bank loan is going to have a naked woman on it, but they don't need to be naked. The head tilt, body posture, arm position does the job perfectly because as animals we communicate more via body movement than we do verbally.

The above pictures are a good example of this.

The woman's employment as a model was noted. This is because it is common for people in modeling or hollywood to be very sexually active in order to get a job.

It is?

As an experiment it would be worth you setting up a company and use models to promote your product. But instead of having the models adopt a posture such as the ones above, you should make the models stand straight like soldiers. It would be interesting to see how quickly you would go out of business.

This is science guys.

I hate to break it to you Happeh, but no.. it isn't.

“By the way if anyone here is in psychiatry or psychology… kill yourself. No, no, no it’s just a little thought. I’m just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they’ll take root - I don’t know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself. Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really, there’s no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan’s little helpers, Okay - kill yourself - seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you’re going, “there’s going to be a joke coming,” there’s no fucking joke coming. You are Satan’s spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked and you are fucking us. Kill yourself. It’s the only way to save your fucking soul, kill yourself. Planting seeds. I know all the psychology people are going, “he’s doing a joke… there’s no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a friend - I don’t care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking machinations. I know what all the psychology people are thinking right now too, “Oh, you know what Bill’s doing, he’s going for that
anti-psychology angle. That’s a good feeling, he’s very smart.” Oh man, I am not doing that. You fucking evil scumbags! “Ooh, you know what Bill’s doing now, he’s going for the righteous indignation . That’s a big motivator. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We’ve done research - huge audience. He’s doing a good thing.” Godammit, I’m not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a godamm motivation on every fucking thing on this planet! “Ooh, the anger. Huge. Huge impact on people. Giant audience, Bill’s very bright to do that.” God, I’m just caught in a fucking web! “Ooh the trapped, the paranoid, the delusional. Good market - look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the
trapped…” How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fucking babies at night, don’t you?”

What the fuck are you blithering on about?
 
Happeh said:
What all of you are doing is saying "I don't know what causes the things you point out. But I am absolutely certain you are wrong because there is no way you could be right".

That about sums up the reasoning of my detractors.
the above qoute sure does sum it up
we gave you explainations
we gave you links
but you ignore everything that disproves what you say

thats why you say scientist are liars because they have the means
of disproving you, and have repeatedly in this thread
 
Happeh said:
You can get what is called blue balls. If you get sexually excited but do not ejaculate, your testicles will swell up and hurt after some time.

There is a difference between relief, and sex because it feels good or the person is addicted. There are also other methods to release the sexual pressure instead of actual sex.


oh okay. Well don't women have the same problem? Yeah...I am a women, sure. But masturbation isn't something I do. It's supposed to be addicting, so it hurts when you don't do it. I feel sort of sorry for guys, since their sex drive is so strong and all.
 
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