Masturbation is for Losers

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Happeh said:
Oh no. If you talk about feminization of man I am running away.

A woman's vagina is round. Your hand is not. The woman's vagina completely surrounds the penis. Your hand does not.
It does. And you are in control. And there is no one to judge whether you're ejaculating sooner or later and a horde of such things that make a man-woman sex far less interesting than it really is.
 
Has anyone pointed out that masturbation for men and women means quite different things. (Even though the heterosexual society and the gender-equality people will tell you its all the same!)
 
Onanism is a natural phenomena in all mammal creatures, there's nothing wrong with it, however psychologically if one is overdoing it, it may be just a psychosis of the individual but I've never heard of any physical damage by the act, only perhaps rash, it the individual likes the ruff feel. LOL...

But what got me to posting is the retard making the claim that one will go blind in one eye. LOL, LOL..What an idiot. Sore legs, bad arm, forget what other claims.. If this be true I'd be blind, limped and with one arm looking like Arnold Shartznegger. LOL...LOL

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Has anyone pointed out that masturbation for men and women means quite different things.

Why Sure!! She uses a dil..And he if affordable would use Sucy the inflatable doll. :D

Godless
 
Lori:

You would have to be absolutely crazy to think that I would go door to door, residential or otherwise, to try to find the rightful owner of the medicine. That's insane. And you wouldn't even think of doing such a thing yourself for one second.

You're right, that would be a tad silly. An intelligent person would take them to the local police station and hand them in. Perhaps it does not work the same where you are, but if you hand something in and nobody claims it after a month or two, you get to keep it. That way you at least know you have actually tried to reunite the owner with their property.

And it went onto my rash, which again, and I'm sure, much to your dismay, is working perfectly.

To be honest the whole affair actually makes me quite curious, (with a little laugh on the side). I mean, judging from what you've said, you would have just used anything you happened to find lying about - whether it be cream or ecstacy tablets. Why, if you are even remotely sane, would you even dream of putting discarded testicle cream on your back?

It could have been a needle full of heroin and you'd just say: "ah, isn't god so sweet", and start injecting. It's foolish - and don't think that applying discarded testicle cream to your back is any less foolish.

Even being the immoral type that would prefer to keep stolen property than hand it in, why oh why would you then use medicine you cannot assume is perfectly safe, in a place that it does not belong? If that is not a clear indication of your mental state then I don't know what is.

I don't know if the drugs were stolen or not...who knows? I assume that they were because of the packaging being for resale, but I could be wrong...who knows? So anyway, the thief steals a bunch of drugs from the store, or off of a delivery truck going to the store. He sells what he can get good money for, or keeps what he needs, and trashes the rest, which includes the lamisil, somewhere in the alley behind my house. He gets busted on video surveillance, and is prosecuted and made to pay restitution to the store or distributor or whoever. The neighborhood kids dig the lamisil out of the trash, looking for something to play with. Yea, I live in Hamilton all right. God, of course looking out for their welfare, disappoints them with a colorless fluid that is useless for making graffiti. I say looking out for their welfare because this medicine is nothing to play with. It can be harmful if swallowed, or sprayed into their eyes, or ingested in any way. So they drop it next to my garage, that they were trying to graffiti. The thief gets prosecuted, the store gets their money back, the children are safe, and my rash is healed. That's the way God works.

What a weak way of trying to justify your dishonesty.

And hey guys, you think you hate me now because I'm blessed?

I don't hate you at all. I feel sorry for you, as anyone in my profession would do.

So, in conclusion, I would like to suggest, that Snakelord and Q go whack each other off

I fail to see what that would accomplish, and to be honest if that's the best you can come up with because a few people happen to disagree with your behaviour, then my pity for you has just gone up a notch.

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Happeh:

What I say is powerful.

I hate to burst that bubble you're living in, but so far you haven't said anything even remotely 'powerful'. You are doing what we refer to in England as: "talking utter bollocks".

It is not nonsense. People are as predictable as putting a nickel in a gumball machine. When people think they know something, they go blind and deaf.

So, once you're done with all the verbal diarrhea any chance you could provide some evidence for your claims?

You are probably one of the first people to cut straight to the heart of the matter within minutes instead of days or weeks.

I tend not to beat around the bush. Glad you noticed.

You must trust me

Justify this statement. Why "must" I trust you?

If you go to the doctor and he says you have cancer, you believe him. Correct? You believe him because he is trained to see cancer. I am self trained to see masturbation damage. You can argue that it is in my head or I am wrong. You could argue with the doctor that his diagnosis is incorrect. It is your choice. Both the doctor and I know what we are talking about. Nothing we can do will convince you. It is up to you to convince yourself.

It's worth pointing out to you that I am a doctor. You're quite new here so you wouldn't have known that, but having now mentioned it, (and given your statements), if I now say you are mentally ill, it is apparent that I know what I'm talking about. Being a 'shrink', it stands to reason that you "must trust me".

Of course what you failed to realise, (which is rather silly for someone that demands trust), I don't know you. You have in no way provided any credentials, nor have you shown that you are worthy of any level of trust whatsoever. You're just some unknown person somewhere behind a computer screen. As a result of that, when you make claims you need to provide evidence if you expect to get anywhere.

Do you understand?

To reassure you that I have thought this thru, there are other causes for the same type of damage to the body that I am talking about. It is not only caused by excessive sexual activity or masturbation. Those are the two main causes in the majority of people that I see the symptoms in. Injecting drugs or snorting drugs can also cause some of the same symptoms.

This entire statement does the exact opposite of reassuring me that you have put any thought into it.

No you are not asking for a lot. Except I have to be willing to deal with you. I already saw how you treated lori.

I didn't treat Lori in any manner, other than to inform her that her actions were immoral, and that as a consequence to her actions other people could be suffering needlessly.

Let's stick to the facts here:

1) For her prayers to have been answered, (and some guy to drop medicine outside her house), would mean that some humans free will had been removed by god all because of Lori's demands.

2) The property does not belong to her. By taking and using it she is just as guilty as the person that originally stole it.

3) By not handing it in to the authorities, or at least trying to find the owner, she is clearly demonstrating that her only care is for her own wellbeing.

4) By making demands of god in the first place so he would then remove someone's free will, and provide her with stolen goods clearly demonstrates that her only care is for herself.

These are the facts of the matter. If you think you can dispute them rationally and logically then kindly do so.

Exposing myself to people who do casual hurt or evil is tiring and sickening for me. I have to protect myself.

If you consider debate and someone informing you of errors or misjudgements as "hurt" and "evil", then fine, ignore me and stay protected. If on the other hand you can handle having your assumptions and beliefs challenged, and have the guts to accept that people will not always agree with you, then by all means talk to me.

But hey, you don't even have to talk to me. Just provide the evidence and we're done.

What fairy tale? That there is a Satan? Maybe if you think Satan is one guy who lords it over the rest of the evil people. If you know what life is about, Satan is real.

Alas my friend, it is not. The same goes for father christmas, the tooth fairy and tragically even Lenny the leprechaun.

I know, it's a cute little way to rationalise all the bad things that happen on this planet, indeed to put a 'face' to evil - but you must understand by now that these beings are not real beings?

Satan is a word to describe human beings who look and act in a certain way.

No it isn't. If you had have said: "'evil' is a word used to describe human beings that act a certain way", then I would concur, but 'satan' is not a word, it's a name.. and implies a specific being:

Satan: n : (Judeo-Christian and Islamic religions) chief spirit of evil and adversary of God; tempter of mankind; master of Hell

I have never seen someone attack a woman like you did except in sick movies where serial killers are chasing women and torturing them.

That's debate, Happeh. It wasn't an attack. Being the direct kind of person I am, if I intended to attack her it would be done in one sentence. What I did do was push some facts her way in the hope that it would improve upon her level of morality. Moral humans do not steal from others, do not deprive owners of their property, do not demand that sky beings remove people's free will. And to add to that, it should also be said that sane people do not apply testicle cream to their backs.

You enjoy hurting.

I'm blunt, sure, but I do not set out to hurt. If people are hurt by it, then one can only conclude that there is truth in what's being said. Having pointed out the facts of the case, we can now see it quite clearly.

It is not a joke or a fairy tale. It is an observation of people who do evil. The majority show readily identifiable traits. Horns and wings are two of the readily identifiable traits.

Now you are just being plain silly. I would advise you stop watching Buffy for a while.

What it shows is that lemmings follow power.

A curious statement. If we take that statement one step further would you then concur that:

A) The most powerful being in existence is god

B) Religious people follow that power

C) A+B = religious people are the biggest lemmings on the planet.

If I felt the urge to duel with you, if I came up victorius, the lemmings would follow me. That is what lemmings do. It is not an indication that you are right. It is an indication that they want to feed off of your power.

Or perhaps it's just an indication that they agree with you. 0_o

Nope. I stay as far away from the manly, "Let's see who I can hurt today" crowd as much as possible.

And therefore your statement that I'm the worst you've seen doesn't really mean much.
 
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Bites the dust...right. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. The only thing Snake has succeeded in doing is demonstrating how a bitter man, blinded by hate, can entirely miss a point.

*applause*
 
Well Lori, how about you debunk the facts I pointed out then?

Pretty please? (see, no hate there - I'm asking nicely).
 
SnakeLord said:
Well Lori, how about you debunk the facts I pointed out then?

Pretty please? (see, no hate there - I'm asking nicely).

What facts? All I've seen is a bunch of bigoted bs that you pulled right out of your ass.
 
1) For your prayers to have been answered, (and some guy to drop medicine outside your house), it would mean that some humans free will had been removed by god all because of your demands.

2) The property does not belong to you. By taking and using it you are just as guilty as the person that originally stole it.

3) By not handing it in to the authorities, or at least trying to find the owner, you are clearly demonstrating that your only care in this instance is for your own wellbeing.

4) By making demands of god in the first place so he would then remove someone's free will, and provide you with stolen goods clearly demonstrates that your only care in this instance is for yourself.

Of course, if you'd prefer to just keep avoiding the issue, feel free to continue accusing me of hatred and whatever else your imagination can conjure up.

Also, I am still curious as to why, if you consider yourself sane, you would apply testicle cream to your back, and also if that cream had have instead been a heroin needle whether you would have injected it and claimed it a prayer answered by god.
 
Ooooooooooh, those "facts". Thanks for clarifying. I have to go drop off some laundry and groceries to someone and then go to work now, but against my better judgement, I'll talk to you later.
 
One question I'd like to ask however is who in the hell picks up a cream packet that, by her own admission, had been dumped with some rubbish, and then applies it to their own skin? :eek:



Happeh said:
Masturbation will make you sick in many many ways. There is an entire list.
The most obvious are that you will go blind in one eye, and that you will become crippled in one leg and one arm. Those are the obviously visible symptoms in the majority of people.
Oh man. This is the kind of crap that mothers tell their little boys to stop them from playing with their willy. But since you've made this highly medical and scientific claim :rolleyes:, where's your proof? Medical and scientific journal article kind of proof?

Breathing problems, headaches, mental problems, anxiety, etc are some of the invisible symptoms that you have to ask people about. Excessive masturbation can cause a person to go gay.
LOL! Please show me scientific proof that extensive masturbation can cause a person to become gay and/or cause the so called 'invisible' symptoms that you so stupidly claimed. From a reputable scientific or medical journal. Because right now you are coming off sounding like a lunatic and a gormless idiot. Now I have been a member of this forum for quite a while and I've seen some pure and utter crap written, and this one is right up there in the pathetic crap tray.

I think I might have another 'symptom' to add to your list... lack of masturbation has turned you into a twit who posts stupid claims as 'symptoms' on internet forums and deserves to be treated with nothing but contempt...
 
Lori_7 said:
...who can't get a date.

Where is this coming from and what does it have to do with religion?

Well, the other night, I overheard a lovely young man talking about how he just can't seem to turn himself on anymore. And I thought well that's cool, since you're not supposed to be turning yourself on. That's my job!

It says in the Bible that your "stuff" belongs to someone else anyway...that is, your future mate. So hands off...give it a rest already! You're supposed to be saving it for someone special. It's meant to be something special...something shared. What's there to share if it's not so special...if it's all used up?

Just so you know where I'm coming from...I've been celebate for going on 5 years (except for one very hideous drunken mistake that lasted for about 5 minutes)...and I haven't masturbated for at least a couple of years...2 or 3 maybe. Except for this one time about a year ago or so...funny, funny stuff...I had someone on my mind alot, and these thoughts of him got me all worked up. So I decided to relieve some tension, and it was like...

wiggle, wiggle, BOOM!

It lasted for all of 2 seconds I swear, and I cracked up laughing at myself, and reaffirmed that yea, that's just a waste of time...even if it's just 2 seconds...lmao.

Back in the day, I used to do it alot. Especially after I stopped having sex with other people. But it got to the point where I had a negative association with it. The thoughts that would go through my mind while doing it were not what I would consider to be "pure" or "positive" in any way. And logic told me that if I wasn't willing to settle for the wrong man, then I wasn't willing to settle for my finger or some lifeless and cold plastic implement either. It just wasn't satisfying anymore...not that it ever really was.

So now, and for years now, I've been saving myself for my future husband. Anyone else out there think that's a good idea?

Wiggle, wiggle, BOOM!
Bitch.
 
Lori_7 said:
Thanks for the spelling lesson. You're a genius for sure, and that adds so much to the discussion. Are you 12?



What's wrong with what I said? It's the truth. I hadn't in a year or two before I did that once. I hadn't in several years before I made the horrible mistake. It's the truth. You have a problem with the truth? There is a difference that I'm conveying in my description of events. Prior to five years ago or so, my sexual habits were entirely different, and I wanted to convey that difference. It's the difference between quitting, and falling off the wagon. No offense, but it seems that you're desperately seeking a criticism.






Polygamy is not sanctioned in the Bible. Accounts of it are recorded in the Bible, but so are accounts of many things that are not sanctioned.



the father of the chosen people had numerous wives... I'd call that an endorsement.

"It's the difference between quitting, and falling off the wagon"

when a drunk falls off the wagon they have to start counting over.


"Thanks for the spelling lesson. You're a genius for sure, and that adds so much to the discussion. Are you 12?"
Woe be to us when its ok to clamor incorrectly in a science forum.
Hmmm, calling a detractor juvenile seems to be your MO.
wrong is wrong. I find it more telling that you've labored under your
self-imposed celibacy without knowing how to spell the word.
 
Lori_7:

Ok, first of all James, I just have to say that your avatar and your sig is so adorable.

Aw, shucks. I'm rather fond of it myself.

From what it says in the Bible, and from personal experience, I would have to say no, it's not ok to have extramarital sex. Isn't the whole point of being married to have that intimacy with someone? I would tend to argue that if your husband/wife won't have sex with you, that you have been abandonded. They are not fulfilling their duty as a spouse.

It's a spouse's duty to have sex with you? Surely there's more to marriage than that?

Well, first of all, I would have to disagree with you about masturbation being fulfilling...from personal experience...I strongly disagree.

I'd say that many people would disagree with you. Masterbation is enjoyable. If it wasn't, then people wouldn't do it. I think the only people who don't enjoy masterbation are the ones who feel guilty about it. And usually, that's for religious reasons - they think that God has something against it and that they are committing a sin by doing it, even though it is enjoyable at the time.

I have no problem with calling it a cheap substitute for what God wants for us. And that would be why God is against it.

You said before that God wants us to have fulfilling sex with another person - perhaps a spouse. But can't we have both? Why can't we have a great sex life with a committed partner AND the occasional wank? What's the harm if the masterbation is just an occasional addition which doesn't take away from the "proper", God-sanctioned sex?

Geez, there are lots. An expression of love in intimacy. A complete sharing of oneself with another...it's like the ultimate act of giving to someone else. It creates a bond that fosters a healthy relationship between parents of the child that it often creates. Everyone seeks it deep down. Many don't believe it's possible....like some kind of twisted fairy tale. Many are so disappointed by the lies and substitutes that people adhere to in this world. It's sad.

In an ideal world, perhaps, all sex would be great and fulfilling, and a real bonding experience. But in the real world, many people don't treat it like that. Some people just like to have sex, with no emotional content at all.

If you pick up somebody in a nightclub for some anonymous sex, is that really better than staying at home and masterbating?

Big surprise, God doesn't expect us or things here to be perfect. He cares about our intentions, not our acts.

But you're saying that masterbation is bad, whether or not you mean any harm by it. And I can't really see how masterbation harms anybody, most of the time. Can you?
 
Happeh sez:

You and I both know that when God dumps those things in your lap, it is because he wants you to have them

So, you are of the mind that anything you come across that isn't nailed down is yours for the taking, as long as you justify it with the voices in your head.

Faith = possession is 9/10 the law.

Prayer = finders keepers, losers weepers.

The more I learn about theists, the more sickened I am.
 
lori sez:

I did not steal anything.

You took something that wasn't yours. That was theft.

The thief gets prosecuted, the store gets their money back, the children are safe, and my rash is healed. That's the way God works.

No, the thief didn't get prosecuted. She got away with it and told everyone god told her to do it.

So, in conclusion, I would like to suggest, that Snakelord and Q go whack each other off, while fantasizing about feeding Christians to lions, or beheading them, or burning them at the stake, or whatever such imagination from which they might get some jollies.

I would find satisfaction from turning you into the authorities for the petty thief you are.
 
Lori_7 said:
So, in conclusion, I would like to suggest, that Snakelord and Q ..... or burning them at the stake,
Isn't that something that Christians were known to be fond of doing to mostly women in the past?

And just so you know, Jesus did not tell me to say that...I came up with that idea all on my own.
:rolleyes:

Ya.. it shows..

So tell me Lori, did Jesus tell you to pick up the box of Lamisil, most probably stolen (as even you have admitted it is a prescribed medication) and dumped, from the trash?

*flipping you both the bird*
How very Christian of you.
 
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