Masturbation is for Losers

[Lori_7]

If Jesus were here today, what would he say regarding the looming environmental disaster caused by over-population, climate change and high birth rates in impoverished areas?

Would he say "Nevermind, procreate"?

He would say to place your trust in Him and not to fear.

 

[Lori_7]

what exactly qualifies as masturbation anyway? if it's touching yourself for pleasure, then couldn't admiring your bad self in the mirror qualify as masturbating? no, better example, body building. masturbation?

I think there's a grey line, so if masturbation is loosery, there must be a scale to measure looserieness (new word! call oxford).

I hearby propose the Masturbation-Integrated Looser Factor (MILF for short), with 0 being a "kissass winner", and 10 being a "complete nothing". To be fair, i rate myself a 6, a geek if you will. But then again a geek could be a 0, like in Bill Gate's case... hmm...

Wow...relativity...that's deep man. You must be a real geek. I love geeks...and dorks too.

 

[spidergoat]

Breeding is for losers.

 

[genep]

Well, I certainly hope that Jesus is taking notes....lol.

In Jesus speak...

Every action has a reaction, and law has consequence. So His law is such that whether it is abided by or circumvented, His will is still done perfectly. But it does make a difference to the one who abides or circumvents.

But other than the Perfection called Now this is no other. That includes the thought called "me." Other than the Perfection of NOW all else is the mind, thoughts. Action and reaction, law and consequence is time, the mind, thoughts.

And this is the Supreme Truth because there is no other that can question or argue, not even Jesus.

 

[c7ityi_]

It is no coincedence. There is no such thing as coincedence.

What I meant is that I don't believe that he is reborn as this rock star.

As far as I know it doesn't say anything about reincarnation in the Bible.

I think there is one thing at least. When the diciples of Jesus asked why Elijah hasn't come back (since he was supposed to come back when the messiah returns) Jesus says that Elijah has already returned but people haven't understood it "then the diciples understood that he was talking about John the prophet"

 

[ZenDrake]

Just so you know where I'm coming from...I've been celebate for going on 5 years (except for one very hideous drunken mistake that lasted for about 5 minutes)...and I haven't masturbated for at least a couple of years...2 or 3 maybe. Except for this one time about a year ago or so...funny, funny stuff...



soooo....
you don't know how to spell this chaste condition which you're
promoting so ruthlessly eh?
c-e-l-i-b-a-t-e... catch the I there?

And one more thing thats just bugging the hell out of me,
you can't say you haven't masturbated in 2 or three years if
you masturbated a year ago.
And you haven't been celibate for five years, you've been celibate
since you fucked drunk.



And a curiosity you might be able to answer for me,
I can understand the bible saying that a woman's genitals
belonged to her husband (future husband in this case)
but if the wife owned her husband's genitals, what if he had more
than one wife??? Did they split ownership??? was there agreed upon
visitation times for spending time with the genitalia they owned??
hmmm.
fascinating.

 

[James R]

Lori_7:

How about sex? Why exactly is that not an option?

It takes two to have sex. Sometimes a partner is not readily available, or doesn't want to have sex.

Do you think it is better to pick up a prostitute, say, than to masterbate?

Or do you think it is fair to force your wife, say, into having sex with you when she doesn't want to, rather than masterbate?

Or should everybody just control their sexual urges? Stop it or you will go blind?

Masturbation is the perverted and cheap substitute that man dreamed up in order to circumvent God's way of doing things and to cope with his (all of our) sin in this world.

Why did God give people such a strong sex drive, then? Why didn't He just give us the occasional urge to have sex when it comes time for procreation?

 

[Lori_7]

Breeding is for losers.

Yes, apparently it is...reminds me of that song...

Been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding....
the cretins cloning and feeding...
and I don't even own a tv.

funny stuff.


And ps...your avatar makes me want to vomit. It's so disgusting...I hate clowns. It reminds me of ICP. *wretch* ew. Nothing personal dude, I just had to comment on the atrocity which is your avatar. I'm done now, thanks.

 

[Lori_7]

But other than the Perfection called Now this is no other. That includes the thought called "me." Other than the Perfection of NOW all else is the mind, thoughts. Action and reaction, law and consequence is time, the mind, thoughts.

And this is the Supreme Truth because there is no other that can question or argue, not even Jesus.

Jesus is God. Law is Law. There is compliance and there is transgression, and there is consequence to both. There is right, and there is wrong. There is good and there is evil. And for those of us...all of us here...who are subject to the dimension of time...it matters. It matters a lot. It sure as hell matters to me...every day.

 

[Lori_7]

Just so you know where I'm coming from...I've been celebate for going on 5 years (except for one very hideous drunken mistake that lasted for about 5 minutes)...and I haven't masturbated for at least a couple of years...2 or 3 maybe. Except for this one time about a year ago or so...funny, funny stuff...



soooo....
you don't know how to spell this chaste condition which you're
promoting so ruthlessly eh?
c-e-l-i-b-a-t-e... catch the I there?

Thanks for the spelling lesson. You're a genius for sure, and that adds so much to the discussion. Are you 12?

And one more thing thats just bugging the hell out of me,
you can't say you haven't masturbated in 2 or three years if
you masturbated a year ago.
And you haven't been celibate for five years, you've been celibate
since you fucked drunk.

What's wrong with what I said? It's the truth. I hadn't in a year or two before I did that once. I hadn't in several years before I made the horrible mistake. It's the truth. You have a problem with the truth? There is a difference that I'm conveying in my description of events. Prior to five years ago or so, my sexual habits were entirely different, and I wanted to convey that difference. It's the difference between quitting, and falling off the wagon. No offense, but it seems that you're desperately seeking a criticism.

And a curiosity you might be able to answer for me,
I can understand the bible saying that a woman's genitals
belonged to her husband (future husband in this case)
but if the wife owned her husband's genitals, what if he had more
than one wife??? Did they split ownership??? was there agreed upon
visitation times for spending time with the genitalia they owned??
hmmm.
fascinating.

Polygamy is not sanctioned in the Bible. Accounts of it are recorded in the Bible, but so are accounts of many things that are not sanctioned.

 

[Lori_7]

Lori_7:



It takes two to have sex. Sometimes a partner is not readily available, or doesn't want to have sex.

Pray for a partner. Or if you have one who doesn't want to have sex, then get another one who does. I mean honestly, is that not the whole point? Otherwise, why put up with all of the crap? lol. Again, self-control is an option...not a popular one, but still. God answers prayers, and a little self-discipline never hurt anyone.

Do you think it is better to pick up a prostitute, say, than to masterbate?

I don't know....I guess is depends...as everything is relative to condition. Are you married or committed in some way to which having sex with a prostitute would hurt your spouse/partners feelings worse than if you masturbated? Then again, you could be putting food into the mouths of a prostitutes babies...you could consider it charity as opposed to selfishness. There is the aspect of intimacy to consider. Sometimes people hire prostitutes just to have someone to talk to or to snuggle up with because they're lonely...and your hand doesn't really measure up in that respect. Either way, you're still copping out to a cheap substitute for what you're really looking for. What you're looking for is true love and the intimacy that goes with it. Do you believe in that? And if the answer is yes, then why settle?

Or do you think it is fair to force your wife, say, into having sex with you when she doesn't want to, rather than masterbate?

Either she is being selfish, or you are being selfish. Either way, it's not ok.

Or should everybody just control their sexual urges? Stop it or you will go blind?

Blind? People are already quite blind, and I don't know that masturbation has much to do with it. Self control is a good thing in general. Discipline builds strength. But I do believe that it's safe to say that God wants us to have lots of great sex. He wants us to be fulfilled...completely fulfilled. And He doesn't want us to settle for anything less. That's my whole point.

Why did God give people such a strong sex drive, then? Why didn't He just give us the occasional urge to have sex when it comes time for procreation?

Because sex is a lot more than that. It means much more, and it serves a greater purpose than just to procreate. Surely you know that.

"Yes I know that, and don't call me Shirley."

 

[leopold]

lori, i can see all my previous attemps have failed. well all i know is if this place is ever turned into a paradise it will be by the blood and sweat of people not by a goddam god. maybe you like falling on your knees and praying to a god that lets children die of starvation. you know, if that is the kind of god he is then fuck him. you are also one of the reasons religion is so despised, "jack off and go blind".

 

[Mosheh Thezion]

The probem with masterbation in Males... is it decreases the need for women.

thus... it is clear why scripture suggests that it is wrong... as it is a waste of seed, which could be implanted in a fertile woman.. and thus allow mankind to fill the earth.

of course some would argue that our world is over populated.. and such is simply not the case... it is simply that greed and selfishness prevents us from reaching our full potential... and colonising the moons, planets, and eventually stars.
-MT

 

[Lori_7]

lori, i can see all my previous attemps have failed. well all i know is if this place is ever turned into a paradise it will be by the blood and sweat of people not by a goddam god. maybe you like falling on your knees and praying to a god that lets children die of starvation. you know, if that is the kind of god he is then fuck him. you are also one of the reasons religion is so despised, "jack off and go blind".

I've never said that so get rid of those quotes. And God doesn't let children die of starvation...we do. Is there not plenty to go around? What is the % of the american population that is dying of obesity again? So what's the problem? Sin...sin is the problem. Just like the Bible says.

This last post of yours was a tantrum. Stop being a child and face the truth.

 

[leopold]

of course some would argue that our world is over populated.. and such is simply not the case... i

some? the worlds population is hovering around this planets safe carrying capacity. why do you think the world isn't overpopulated?

 

[leopold]

This last post of yours was a tantrum. Stop being a child and face the truth.

pissed off is more appropriate. the truth? the sad truth is there is no proof of a "god" as supernatural all powerfull rightuos entity.

 

[Mosheh Thezion]

The USA has enough farm land to feed the whole world... in fact the USA Gov't pays some farmers not to grow food... so as to maintain the price.....

there is no food shortage... there is no real probelm.. only greed.

-MT

 

[leopold]

i agree that america is a big place but i don't think she can feed the world. and besides why should she? can't these other countries get off their butts and grow their own stuff?

 

[Lori_7]

i agree that america is a big place but i don't think she can feed the world. and besides why should she? can't these other countries get off their butts and grow their own stuff?

I rest my case.

 

[Lori_7]

pissed off is more appropriate. the truth? the sad truth is there is no proof of a "god" as supernatural all powerfull rightuos entity.

Yes there is proof. You have to seek it. You have to want to know. Do you want to know Him? You don't have to answer me. Answer yourself.