Buffalo Roam keeps bringing up the same counter arguments to the claim that the 1948 Partition was unfair to the Palestinians.
Buffalo claims that the British promises to the Jews have some sort of moral weight which is absurd. The British also made promises to the Arabs and the British foreign policy never was governed by morality.
In 1947 Jews were 30% of the population of Palestine and owned about 7% of the land of Palestine but were given control over 53% of Palestine by the UN. The UN said that this was fair because more Jews would be coming. The UN does what the member states tell it to do and the member states did what the great power victors of WW2 told them to do so the UN also has no moral authority. I personally suspect that fear of an Arab German alliance in a future WW3 may have played a role in decisions that were made.
The only right and wrong we have to go by is that "though shall not steal" even if you have been stolen from. Historians agree that Palestinians were aware that many but not all of the Jews living in Palestine/Israel intended for Jews to displace the Palestinians so expecting the Palestinians to accept being governed by a people who intended to displace them is not realistic.
Buffalo claims the Partition was fair because the Palestinians also had Jordan. Jordan is not included in the partition and Buffalo knows this and is being disingenuous. If we added the Jordanians the Arab population numbers would go up and be higher than 70% Arab. 3/4ths of the Land in Jordan should not be counted as land because it is useless dessert and does not have anything of value like oil. Yes Buffalo, some of the land in the Partition was also useless land.
Buffalo tries to claim that Jordan is Palestine. Both the Palestinian and Jordanians Ethnic identities were products of British map drawing. Neither ethnic identity existed prior to British control. Arabs vary considerably over distances. Egyptian and Iraqi Arabic speakers can barely understand each other. Saying Jordan is Palestine is like saying Norway is Sweden. They can understand each other.
Below: Buffalo's maps and below that the maps that discredit his argument.
Buffalo claims that the British promises to the Jews have some sort of moral weight which is absurd. The British also made promises to the Arabs and the British foreign policy never was governed by morality.
In 1947 Jews were 30% of the population of Palestine and owned about 7% of the land of Palestine but were given control over 53% of Palestine by the UN. The UN said that this was fair because more Jews would be coming. The UN does what the member states tell it to do and the member states did what the great power victors of WW2 told them to do so the UN also has no moral authority. I personally suspect that fear of an Arab German alliance in a future WW3 may have played a role in decisions that were made.
The only right and wrong we have to go by is that "though shall not steal" even if you have been stolen from. Historians agree that Palestinians were aware that many but not all of the Jews living in Palestine/Israel intended for Jews to displace the Palestinians so expecting the Palestinians to accept being governed by a people who intended to displace them is not realistic.
Buffalo claims the Partition was fair because the Palestinians also had Jordan. Jordan is not included in the partition and Buffalo knows this and is being disingenuous. If we added the Jordanians the Arab population numbers would go up and be higher than 70% Arab. 3/4ths of the Land in Jordan should not be counted as land because it is useless dessert and does not have anything of value like oil. Yes Buffalo, some of the land in the Partition was also useless land.
Buffalo tries to claim that Jordan is Palestine. Both the Palestinian and Jordanians Ethnic identities were products of British map drawing. Neither ethnic identity existed prior to British control. Arabs vary considerably over distances. Egyptian and Iraqi Arabic speakers can barely understand each other. Saying Jordan is Palestine is like saying Norway is Sweden. They can understand each other.
Below: Buffalo's maps and below that the maps that discredit his argument.
SAM, the Jews never even got close to taking 53% of the land again just look at the Palestinian Mandate:
And this is what the Jews recieved in U.N. 181:
