Mafia 2

Oh BTW i only just realised this and its importance on the game but blue moose was actually the police officer
 
Everyone who voted for 11parcal is suspect in my book now. Anyone voting when we have no idea who is town, is really stupid or really suspect.

Why do you think that? The town has to vote the mafia out. The only way to do that is to actually vote. If the town sits back and doesn't vote, the mafia will just go ahead and vote out townspeople.

I trust Enmos so far.

I also have no reason to distrust Enmos. But he has hardly said anything.

Oh.

Vote: James R.

Reasoning:
Enmos doesn't want to vote for James.
I don't think James wants to vote for Enmos.
James R. will vote for Challenger.
Challenger will vote for James R.

Vairom will vote for James R.

So the question...why won't Enmos vote for James R?
Well I have a feeling that Enmos isn't mafia...but he still won't vote for him...but he's willing to at the last second.

My vote is not set in stone. But I have given a solid argument for why I suspect Challenger78 and phoenix2634. As far as I can see, none of the people voting for me have given any argument as to why I would be mafia.

I can only conclude that there's a mafia conspiracy to try to vote me out.

I'm adding Vaiorom to my list of likely mafia, which now includes the following people:

Challenger78
phoenix2634
Vaiorom

I note that none of these people have justified their votes. Vaiorom's vote for me looks particularly suspicious at this point.

I think the mafia sees me as a threat.

To prove that I am town, I invite other townspeople to suggest a person to vote for. I will vote with you, provided you are not one of the three people on my list above.
 
i will be taking over the aresting roll:p
but i dont know anything about investigations so i cant investigate anyone:(:p
 
Why do you think that? The town has to vote the mafia out. The only way to do that is to actually vote. If the town sits back and doesn't vote, the mafia will just go ahead and vote out townspeople.



I also have no reason to distrust Enmos. But he has hardly said anything.



My vote is not set in stone. But I have given a solid argument for why I suspect Challenger78 and phoenix2634. As far as I can see, none of the people voting for me have given any argument as to why I would be mafia.

I can only conclude that there's a mafia conspiracy to try to vote me out.

I'm adding Vaiorom to my list of likely mafia, which now includes the following people:

Challenger78
phoenix2634
Vaiorom

I note that none of these people have justified their votes. Vaiorom's vote for me looks particularly suspicious at this point.

I think the mafia sees me as a threat.

To prove that I am town, I invite other townspeople to suggest a person to vote for. I will vote with you, provided you are not one of the three people on my list above.

I have to potentially head out for the night. Should I maintain my vote for Enmos, or do you have a better suggestion?
 
Oh BTW i only just realised this and its importance on the game but blue moose was actually the police officer

That makes it very difficult for the town.

By the way; It's my view that everyone with exclusion of James R. should vote for Enmos.

Why am I excluded? If you suspect Enmos, tell me why. If you can convince me, I'll happily change my vote to Enmos.

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Another thought: where is our undercover informant inside the mafia?

We know that there is one person out there who is town but who knows who the mafia are. That person should be doing something other than protecting their own skin. They have to try to push the town vote in the right direction. Obviously, they will have to try to do this without actually voting for the mafia themselves, because that would be a giveaway to the mafia.

With the cop out of the game, our only real source of information is the undercover agent.

Also, about the doctor:

Does the doctor have to choose to protect somebody before the vote, or can they do it after the vote?

I ask the doctor, whoever you are, to please protect me if the vote is going against me. Because if it looks like I'm going to be voted out, I guarantee to you that it is mafia trying to get rid of me.

Note that I'm still the only person here giving detailed reasons for his vote. Some of the people voting for my arrest must be mafia.
 
I have to potentially head out for the night. Should I maintain my vote for Enmos, or do you have a better suggestion?

Since there's no evidence against Enmos right now, I'd advise voting for any of the three people on my list above (i.e. Challenger, Vaiorom or phoenix2634). If you vote for any of them, I will follow your vote. That will also show the other townspeople that I can be trusted.
 
the lawyer has to tell me BEFORE the day starts (or at least before the day ends) who they wish to protect and the doctor has to tell me BEFORE the night ends who they wish protected.

this is done secretly because it would give an unfair advantage to both sides if it was done openly

i will say this, im VERY put out with the doctor because they havent actually responded to my PM's ONCE

ops, scratch that, i missed one of my PM's *blush*

oh i got that wrong, the lawyer HAS to PM me at night

they cant use there power at the last minute
 
Everyone who voted for 11parcal is suspect in my book now. Anyone voting when we have no idea who is town, is really stupid or really suspect.

You know, the more I look at this, the more suspicious I get about nietzschefan. Advising the town not to vote? It makes no sense - unless you're mafia.

James R is looking a little suspicious.

Tell us all why. Otherwise, you're suspicious.

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Enmos:

Thanks for unvoting me. I take that as a signal that I might be able to trust you.

What are your ideas on who might be mafia?
 
You know, the more I look at this, the more suspicious I get about nietzschefan. Advising the town not to vote? It makes no sense - unless you're mafia.



Tell us all why. Otherwise, you're suspicious.

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Enmos:

Thanks for unvoting me. I take that as a signal that I might be able to trust you.

What are your ideas on who might be mafia?

But I don't agree that any of those 3 are Mafia. I know either you or Enmos is Mafia. I'm forced to vote for one of you two. In one instance we could lose an undercover town, and in the other a true mafia member.
 
CheskiChips,

How do you know that either Enmos or me is mafia? And what's your argument against the 3 people on my list being mafia?
 
admin note, some people have begun reciving tips from me, due to the fact that our gospip was arested i have had to send them to other people.

DO NOT REVEAL THESE TIPS. however apart from saying "asguard sent me ...." you may use them as you see fit
 
CheskiChips,

How do you know that either Enmos or me is mafia? And what's your argument against the 3 people on my list being mafia?

Challenger - One of you two are Mafia
Vaiorom - Is willing to vote for you.
phoenix2634 - Will Vote For you
Enmos - Will vote for you.


Since Challenger would vote for Vaiorom OR you OR 11parcal. That gives rise to him...since 11parcal he helped vote out.

Phoenix also voted for 11parcal..and you. So it seems likely that he is most likely Town. The others are going to wait it out.

So in my mind we can cross phoenix off the list.
If you're truly town we then suspect left is:
Enmos
Vaiorom
Chalenger.

This leaves Vaiorom and Enmos. (exempting Challenger temporarily because he appears to be willing to vote for anyone..)
Enmos wanted to wait until the end of the game to vote. Why?

Could it be Mafia - Lawyer, stops one person being arested each day, you wont know who is being protected unless they are arrested??? So he wants to protect someone at the last second?
OR
Mafia - Undercover cop, knows who the mafia is but is really towns person.???

Either are a reason to resist voting.

In this case he will clearly vote for you knowing that you're highly outnumbered. Meaning it's most beneficial for us to vote for either (again stated)
Vaiorom and Enmos.
Enmos can easily protect Vaiorom if I am correct, which would be his intent.
Thus Enmos is a danger, but he can't protect himself?
Vote for ENMOS!!

By the way with Betrayer of Hope:
Why Would Anyone Want To Be The Alien? How Does He Win?
I think he bleeped himself to throw us off...
 
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umm CheskiChips, to fix a couple of my own fuck ups

a) challanger is NOT abducted, it was BOH not challanger.
b) the lawyer MUST nominate a protected person the night BEFORE not during the day. this is to balance the fact that unlike the doctor s/he can see who is being voted for

the doctor has a longer timeframe. they just have to get a vote into me before the end of night but night wont wait for them to nominate
 
I notice that phoenix2634 is online but not saying anything here. Why not?

Becuase I'm doing a horrible job of multitasking: trying to read this thread, trying form a coherent thought, and IRL watch the Dallas Cowboys beat up the Philadelphia Eagles. It's not working to well. :eek:
 
umm CheskiChips, to fix a couple of my own fuck ups

a) challanger is NOT abducted, it was BOH not challanger.
b) the lawyer MUST nominate a protected person the night BEFORE not during the day. this is to balance the fact that unlike the doctor s/he can see who is being voted for

the doctor has a longer timeframe. they just have to get a vote into me before the end of night but night wont wait for them to nominate

I repaired my post accordingly.
 
Hmmm....

Challenger - One of you two are Mafia
Vaiorom - Is willing to vote for you.
phoenix2634 - Will Vote For you
Enmos - Will vote for you.

Well, obviously the mafia will vote for me, since I'm a townsperson. As I've already explained, this is exactly why I suspect the first three on this list.

With a little more info available, I'm also doubting Enmos now.

Since Challenger would vote for Vaiorom OR you OR 11parcal. That gives rise to him...since 11parcal he helped vote out.

Challenger has given no indication of voting for Vaiorom. Has he? If both of them are mafia, that makes sense. And it also makes sense that they both want to vote for me.

Phoenix also voted for 11parcal..and you. So it seems likely that he is most likely Town. The others are going to wait it out.

Since I am town, phoenix voting for 11parcal makes me suspicious. It could, however, have been an innocent mistake. If phoenix votes for me, then I'll be really suspicious.

So in my mind we can cross phoenix off the list.
If you're truly town we then suspect left is:
Enmos
Vaiorom
Chalenger.

Agree.

Since Challenger is absentee he's no worry.

That's not true. He can turn up at the last minute and put in a vote for any townsperson, if he is mafia. And he will definitely be a worry at night, since he gets to vote for a kill. In short, any mafia left unarrested is a worry.

This leaves Vaiorom and Enmos.
Enmos wanted to wait until the end of the game to vote. Why?

That's a good question. I'm beginning to suspect Enmos.

Could it be Mafia - Lawyer, stops one person being arested each day, you wont know who is being protected unless they are arrested??? So he wants to protect someone at the last second?
OR
Mafia - Undercover cop, knows who the mafia is but is really towns person.???

Either are a reason to resist voting.

True.

In this case he will clearly vote for you knowing that you're highly outnumbered. Meaning it's most beneficial for us to vote for either (again stated)
Vaiorom and Enmos.
Enmos can easily protect Vaiorom if I am correct, which would be his intent.
Thus Enmos is a danger, but he can't protect himself?

Ok. Then, for now:

Unvote: Challenger78
Vote: Enmos
 
Enmos:

Do you know what you were doing around the time when BlueMoose was killed?
 
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