Mafia 2

I have my reasons...

What possible reasons could you have ? :confused:

I don't know what your game is but you're obviously enjoying it because of your immunity :bugeye:

CheskiChips: Suspect

I've seen someone say you were guaranteed innocent, but I can't find where Asguard said it..
Where did it come from ?
 
What possible reasons could you have ? :confused:

I don't know what your game is but you're obviously enjoying it because of your immunity :bugeye:

CheskiChips: Suspect

I've seen someone say you were guaranteed innocent, but I can't find where Asguard said it..
Where did it come from ?

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Town - Mayor's informant, CheskiChips DEFINITLY town. Recives tips but may or may not be reliable

Just don't worry about my vote for now.
I would suggest voting for James R. to balance the vote though.
 
I have a weird use for both sides. You can unvote, and revote. There's strategic use of voting.

IF James is innocent, me voting for him will just make him think I am mob and he will perhaps vote for me.
Where does that put me, seeing you already voted for me.. ?
 
IF James is innocent, me voting for him will just make him think I am mob and he will perhaps vote for me.
Where does that put me, seeing you already voted for me.. ?

You have my word that if James R. retaliates and votes for you, I will immediately change it to someone other than you. (Specifically James R.)
 
You have my word that if James R. retaliates and votes for you, I will immediately change it to someone other than you.

What good is anyones word in this game :rolleyes:
What you are really doing is blackmailing me into voting for James.
Now, Asguard said you are guaranteed innocent but he could be playing games..
 
What good is anyones word in this game :rolleyes:
What you are really doing is blackmailing me into voting for James.
Now, Asguard said you are guaranteed innocent but he could be playing games..

I find it suspect that you won't vote for James R. despite how suspicious he is. I also find it suspect that they wouldn't vote for you...if you want to vindicate yourself you could do it easily...by voting for James R.

Maybe I was given tips...
 
Hey, what gives ? I voted for parcal because I would have been voted out otherwise, BM would have followed James lead, he trusted him blindly.. and you seem to trust emnos blindly too..

As for me, the verdict is clear, since BM was killed, and the first person he attacked was James, I'm leaning that way. But I'll give james a chance to defend himself before I vote for him. I can't trust anyone except Cheksichips..
 
I find it suspect that you won't vote for James R. despite how suspicious he is. I also find it suspect that they wouldn't vote for you...if you want to vindicate yourself you could do it easily...by voting for James R.
I find it suspicious you jump to conclusions so quickly.
I already said I find James and Challenger suspect, and that I will probably vote for James. What more do you want..
Is it really so weird I want to hear more people before I vote ?

Maybe I was given tips...
Maybe you are lying.
 
Hey, what gives ? I voted for parcal because I would have been voted out otherwise, BM would have followed James lead, he trusted him blindly.. and you seem to trust emnos blindly too..

As for me, the verdict is clear, since BM was killed, and the first person he attacked was James, I'm leaning that way. But I'll give james a chance to defend himself before I vote for him. I can't trust anyone except Cheksichips..

Maybe you should vote for me then :rolleyes:
 
Maybe you should vote for me then :rolleyes:

Hmm.. Ok, Now thats just inviting trouble. If I vote for you, theres no garuntee Chesksichips won't come back and backstab me, because YOU convinced him.


Last time, I jumped to conclusions way too quickly.. and as a result was easy to manipulate.. Not gonna happen this time.
 
Hi all,

Looks like people still suspect me. To defend myself, consider my actions:

Initially, I voted for BlueMoose, which was random. BlueMoose and Challenger78 then both targeted me. But we decided to trust each other. We voted out 11parcal.

11parcal, of course, turned out to be town, which is a real shame, but there was no way of knowing. The police officer didn't do his job and help the town. I hope he will tell us his investigation results today, otherwise the police officer is a wasted role.

But if you're thinking I manipulated the vote to get 11parcal because I am mafia, consider this: I was not the person who suggested we vote for 11parcal. That was BlueMoose's suggestion. Check back if you don't believe me. I agreed to go with BlueMoose's suggestion, and so did Challenger78.

Now, we know BlueMoose was town because the mafia killed him. So, he didn't know 11parcal was town, and neither did I.

I know Cheskichips voted Enmos, but I could see no reason to change my vote to Enmos at that stage. 11parcal was just as likely to be mafia as far as I was concerned.

And, of course, I wanted to make sure I wasn't voted out.

As things stand now, I know I was right to trust BlueMoose. I can't be sure about Challenger78, but on a balance of probabilities, I think it is most likely he is mafia. He voted 11parcal as well. Since I am town, 11parcal was town and Bluemoose was town, that leaves 3 townspeople (including the alien) and 5 mafia, so chances are that the only other person to vote for 11parcal knew that 11parcal was town. Therefore, I conclude that, most probably, Challenger78 is mafia.

Who else is in this game?

Betrayer0fHope has been abducted by aliens, so we don't have to worry about him right now.
We know CheskiChips is town, but he doesn't have any better information about who is mafia than the rest of us.
Enmos hasn't registered a vote yet in this game, so I have nothing to indicate whether he is mafia or not yet.
MZ3Boy84 hasn't been sighted in the game thread, I don't think, so again there's no info.
nietzschefan also doesn't seem to be participating much.
phoenix2634 is another person who voted 11parcal. In my book, that makes him possible mafia.
unixgeek13 and Vaiorom haven't put in an appearance yet, I don't think.

With the police officer again not reporting to the town, there's still not much to go on here. Since the only solid information I have is past voting patterns, my prime mafia suspects now are:

Challenger78
phoenix2634

I hope that the fact that I'm laying out my reasoning processes to this extent will help convince other townspeople that I am trustworthy. Ask yourself: would I really go to this much effort and analysis if I was mafia? I'll tell you: if I actually was mafia I would lay low. I would be like those other players here who aren't posting at all. I'd just wait for night to roll around, as long as I wasn't going to be voted out. Then, I'd put in my "kill" vote for the night. During the day, I'd sit back comfortably and watch the town tie themselves in knots of speculation.

What I'd like to know right now is:

* I'd like the police officer to do his job and inform the town about his investigations. Otherwise, the police officer is either really a mafia member or just useless.
* I'd like Enmos, Challenger78 and phoenix2634 to try to convince me that they are not mafia. Give me reasons for why I should trust you.
* I want the non-participating players to start talking. Anybody who doesn't talk will be automatically under suspicion from me from now on. And if you're not going to participate, why play anyway?

In response to comments:

Also, James made bluemoose suspicious and he voted for parcal.
I think James is highly suspicious at this point.

On what basis do you suspect me? BlueMoose chose to vote for 11parcal, and I followed his suggestion - not the other way round. I was not the first to suggest voting 11parcal out.

I agree Enmos. I voted for you because I wanted to encourage James R. and Challenger78 to vote for anyone other than Pacal...

Why? You couldn't know that 11parcal was innocent, any more than I could. Do you suspect Enmos?

I personally believe the argument between Challenger78 and James R. was either staged or...just...doesn't seem right.

Trust me: it wasn't staged. I now have stronger suspicions of Challenger78 than before. In fact:

Vote: Challenger78

Does that help convince you at all?

I also believe Challenger78 was abducted by Vaiorom, as the only vote for Vaiorom was by Challenger78.

I don't think the alien will necessarily abduct people who vote for him/it. Actually, does abduction mean that the abducted person's vote for arrest doesn't count (Asguard?).

phoenix2634 hasn't spoken enough to make any conclusion. However; he voted for James R. initially and it seems likely that he was persuaded...he just went with the flow.

Or, phoenix2634 is mafia and he went with the flow because he knew 11parcal was innocent.

I'm saying a vote for James R. is required at this point, followed by Challenger...however since he can't vote this round we're best off to vote James R. What do you think?

Why can't Challenger vote this round? I don't understand.

Look, I can see why the same logic as I have put above tends to throw suspicion equally on me as on Challenger. But I don't see Challenger making the same kind of arguments I'm making. Surely you can see that I am obviously town and am doing my utmost to try to work out who is mafia?

I think you have a point, but I didn't vote yet because I want to see some more conversations. I'll make up my mind at the end of the day, or at the last possible moment (I guess nightfall happens when I'm asleep again). Unless I'm convinced of course :)

Bad move leaving it to the last minute. I think the town needs to vote early. If we happen to vote for a mafia person, then the mafia will have to scramble to change the vote. It forces the mafia to act, and thereby reveal themselves.

Hey, what gives ? I voted for parcal because I would have been voted out otherwise, BM would have followed James lead, he trusted him blindly.. and you seem to trust emnos blindly too..

You have things backwards. I followed BM's lead, not the other way round. Check back if you don't believe me.

I hope you're not deliberately trying to distort the record, because that makes me even more suspicious of you.
 
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