Mafia 2

As I said, maybe you wanted to vote for me for revenge, but Challenger78 has no possible reason other than that he is mafia.

This makes me more than a little suspicious of you, I must say.

You don't know that Challenger78 is not mafia - you can't possibly know that. That's if you're a townsperson. But if you are mafia, then you know who all the other mafia are.

In fact, I think that, most likely, you and Challenger78 are both mafia. You want to protect him (and yourself) by voting for me, because you're worried that I will deduce who the mafia are.

-Ok, I know I´m not mafia, for Challenger I obviously dont know if he is
mafia, but your random attack me and same time Challenger did make me
suspicious of you.

Apparently, the cop has already investigated somebody. We need to know the results of that investigation before the vote deadline.

-Its interesting that the result isnt here already. I have thought it,
only reason in my understanding is that he/she has investigated the
the other mafia cop ! Could that be the case ?

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Right now, I urge the townspeople to vote for BlueMoose, based on his statement that he somehow knows that Challenger78 is not mafia. The only way he can make such a definitive statement is if BlueMoose himself really is mafia and is trying to protect Challenger78.

-My reasoning is above, actually all I can guess now is that either you or Cahllenger could be mafia. Thanks for changing your vote off from me.
 
Town - Gun shop proprietor, takes out another person when they die

Does this potentially give enough rise to question him actually being Town?

Post #1 of this thread says the gun shop person is definitely town and not mafia. Of course, we don't know who the gun shop proprietor is.

What we do know is that the mafia won't try to kill the gun shop proprietor early in the game, because they risk having him take out one of them.

If we could reveal roles, it would make a lot of sense for the gun shop proprietor to reveal himself, but that's against the rules...
 
james, actually i find it more stressful running the game because i have to work out hints for people which wont just give the whole thing away.

last time i was trying to manipulate people into voting the way i wanted, i already knew who the mafia were:p
 
CheskiChips what are you talking about, he is a townsperson but if he his killed or arested he will have a free shot at someone else. Now being a townsperson he will probably kill the most likly mafia but thats not 100% garentied. Its his decision and if you wrongfully arest him you could just piss him off:p

Post #1 of this thread says the gun shop person is definitely town and not mafia. Of course, we don't know who the gun shop proprietor is.

What we do know is that the mafia won't try to kill the gun shop proprietor early in the game, because they risk having him take out one of them.

If we could reveal roles, it would make a lot of sense for the gun shop proprietor to reveal himself, but that's against the rules...

That's my point.
Unvote: James R.
 
-Ok, I know I´m not mafia, for Challenger I obviously dont know if he is
mafia, but your random attack me and same time Challenger did make me
suspicious of you.

-My reasoning is above, actually all I can guess now is that either you or Challenger could be mafia. Thanks for changing your vote off from me.

His attack on you made me suspicious too, but you thanking him for changing you vote raises even more suspicions.. what if both of you are mafia.. Where are the other players when you need them ?
 
That's my point.
Unvote: James R.

why'd you unvote him..

Remember people he's the one who started all this suspicion in the first place, instead of reasoning and asking questions like me and BM, were, Others voted No Arrest. I voted him because he started attacking people, and who does that unless they know who to attack ?

Right now, I'm looking at James as Mafia.
 
BlueMoose:

Ok, I know I´m not mafia, for Challenger I obviously dont know if he is mafia, but your random attack me and same time Challenger did make me suspicious of you.

Fair enough. But realise that my vote for you was just what you said: random. As an innocent townsperson, I didn't have any information. But the town has to vote somebody out. So, I thought I'd stir the pot.

I'm willing to trust you for now. I hope you will trust me.

Its interesting that the result isnt here already. I have thought it,
only reason in my understanding is that he/she has investigated the
the other mafia cop ! Could that be the case ?

Yes! That might explain it, I suppose.

My reasoning is above, actually all I can guess now is that either you or Cahllenger could be mafia. Thanks for changing your vote off from me.

That's ok. As I said, you have to trust somebody. I'm still waiting for Challenger78's explanation of his vote for me.

Or guilty, and simply trying to so division ,such as James R.

I'm not trying to sow division. You might be, though.

I'm willing to unvote you if you explain why you suspect me. I'm the one who is vocally trying to nut out who is mafia around here. There are many other quiet people you could vote for.

I'll tell you: if I was mafia, I wouldn't be drawing this much attention to myself. I'd sit back, not engage in too much debate, and let the townspeople vote off whoever they like. I'd only put in my vote at the last minute if it looked like the town was going to vote off one of my mafia friends.
 
why'd you unvote him..

Remember people he's the one who started all this suspicion in the first place, instead of reasoning and asking questions like me and BM, were, Others voted No Arrest. I voted him because he started attacking people, and who does that unless they know who to attack ?

Right now, I'm looking at James as Mafia.

I un-voted him because even if he is potentially Mafia attempting to look like the gun proprietor there's other people who are potentially Mafia. If his actions continue to look suspicious then you have a guarantee. It's more likely (to assume at this time) that people who didn't speak and simultaneously posted frequently in other forums are mafia.
 
His attack on you made me suspicious too, but you thanking him for changing you vote raises even more suspicions.. what if both of you are mafia.. Where are the other players when you need them ?

I would want to trust somebody, but its hard. Thanking is suspicious, so if I
vote for you and then unvote you, you wouldnt be grateful about it ?

Somehow this situation is that either James R/Challenger or me is on the spot.
What if we are all innocent and mafia guys are having time of their life watching us stabbing each other.

I suggest we vote somebody whom hasnt posted at all and see what kind of reactions it will make ? We have to vote somebody.

Vote: 11parcal
 
i have been thinking about this and in an effort not to let the mafia exert to much control "no vote"s will act like you havent voted rather than a vote in and of themselves.

Apart from making this it makes the counting easier for me as well
 
why'd you unvote him..

Remember people he's the one who started all this suspicion in the first place, instead of reasoning and asking questions like me and BM, were, Others voted No Arrest. I voted him because he started attacking people, and who does that unless they know who to attack ?

Right now, I'm looking at James as Mafia.

I think we have some mutual paranoia going around here.

How can you hope to find out who the mafia are without registering a vote? It can't be done. The only way to flush out the mafia is to accuse people (by voting), then see what the voting reaction is. The mafia will act to vote off townspeople - especially ones who accuse them.

The best thing is for every townsperson to register a vote. It doesn't matter who you vote for yet, because we don't have much information. Just vote for somebody, and then wait and see what other people do. If the majority vote is going towards a mafia member, suddenly we'll see people changing their votes. But if the vote is going towards a townsperson, then nobody will change their vote because the mafia will be happy.

Tell me, Challenger78. If I unvote you, will you register a vote for somebody else?
 
I think we have some mutual paranoia going around here.

How can you hope to find out who the mafia are without registering a vote? It can't be done. The only way to flush out the mafia is to accuse people (by voting), then see what the voting reaction is. The mafia will act to vote off townspeople - especially ones who accuse them.

The best thing is for every townsperson to register a vote. It doesn't matter who you vote for yet, because we don't have much information. Just vote for somebody, and then wait and see what other people do. If the majority vote is going towards a mafia member, suddenly we'll see people changing their votes. But if the vote is going towards a townsperson, then nobody will change their vote because the mafia will be happy.

Tell me, Challenger78. If I unvote you, will you register a vote for somebody else?

Good thing I reread the thread,
Yeah, Who'd you have in mind.. I think BM is right, the mafia are just sitting back smoking their cigars PRETENDING to be neutral, and laughing..

So,
Vote:11parcal
 
I would want to trust somebody, but its hard. Thanking is suspicious, so if I vote for you and then unvote you, you wouldnt be grateful about it ?

I'll tell you: I'll be extremely grateful to anybody who unvotes me, anytime!

Somehow this situation is that either James R/Challenger or me is on the spot. What if we are all innocent and mafia guys are having time of their life watching us stabbing each other.

I agree. This could be a case of mutual paranoia, and, like I said, if I was mafia I wouldn't be talking much at all.

I suggest we vote somebody whom hasnt posted at all and see what kind of reactions it will make ? We have to vote somebody.

All right. I'm willing to go with your plan for now.

Unvote: Challenger78
Vote: 11parcal

But I'll be very suspicious if I don't see Challenger78 also change his vote.
 
Thankyou, Challenger78.

Ok, so now it's up to 11parcal to defend himself.
 
hmm...
Vote: Enmos

soo....do other Mafia know the other Mafias?

Who'd jump on that bandwagon?

I personally don't think both James R. and Challenger78 will vote for Enmos.
 
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you know something, i HATE you guys at the moment:p
its taking me for ever to keep the first post updated:p
 
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