Lucid Living

[DaveC426913]

Do you think bacteria are aware?

Depends on what one means by 'aware'.
'Responds to external stimuli' is part of the definition of life.

 

[geordief]

I am not quite up to speed on who might be connecting a psyche with a religious concept but I can see how it could be assumed there was a connection by some people ** (is that was "spirituality" is about? or is spirituality understood to have no connection to religious beliefs)

Personally anything suggestive of "otherworldliness " in whatever shape or form has no attraction for me .

It is very hard to commandeer meanings of words and so there is never going to be any end to argumentation- a good thing perhaps but frustrating if you have a yen to pin down definitions and lay them out in an orderly manner..

** after all "psyche" is a (central?) term in psychology and yet its derivation reads very explicitly as "soul" from the Greek which is an open invitation to those of a religious persuasion I assume.

 

[sweetpea]

Depends on what one means by 'aware'.
'Responds to external stimuli' is part of the definition of life.

Good point, I was too open there. I was thinking more of 'aware' of one's own actions of response.
Solar cells are not aware their jiggling electrons in response to light, so to speak.

 

[sweetpea]

I am not quite up to speed on who might be connecting a psyche with a religious concept but I can see how it could be assumed there was a connection by some people ** (is that was "spirituality" is about? or is spirituality understood to have no connection to religious beliefs)

Personally anything suggestive of "otherworldliness " in whatever shape or form has no attraction for me .

It is very hard to commandeer meanings of words and so there is never going to be any end to argumentation- a good thing perhaps but frustrating if you have a yen to pin down definitions and lay them out in an orderly manner..

** after all "psyche" is a (central?) term in psychology and yet its derivation reads very explicitly as "soul" from the Greek which is an open invitation to those of a religious persuasion I assume.

Yes, to most of that. But, maybe I should say this is Bowser, so there's a good chance we know what's coming.

Grab a brick with your hand and there you grasp God.

Even the face of Richard Dawkins is God.

If you want to hold God's hand, take the hand of another.

When I hold up my bowl of oatmeal in the morning,

I don't quote Bowser there to belittle him, but as an indication.
Bowser, If I'm wrong, sorry.

 

[DaveC426913]

Good point, I was too open there. I was thinking more of 'aware' of one's own actions.
Solar cells are not aware their jiggling electrons in response to light, so to speak.

Ah. Self-aware. Theory-of-mind.

 

[kx000]

I can visualize paradise in nature.

 

[Bowser]

Does "aware" always have to he understood as "aware of something"

It would seem so. At the very least, we are aware of the feeling/idea of "I am."

 

[RainbowSingularity]

It would seem so. At the very least, we are aware of the feeling/idea of "I am."

0 + 1 = "i am"
1 + 1 = "i am a (?)" ?
2 + 0/1 = "i am, & you are! & i am not you!"
1.1 + 2 = "i am & you are a(?)"