Its time for Hezbollah to get their butt's kicked!

spacemansteve said:
Genji: Do you have any proof of these allegations or just unsubstantiated reports from individuals?

I see these reports in the media all the time, but most of the time its made by the prisoner who is trying to gain something out of it. Thats what military tribunals are there for, and trust me they're working overtime to investigate these allegations and most of the time throwing them out. Which is something you don't hear.

Yes we all know about the Abu Graib prison scandal, but that was cleared up ages ago... theres no new scandal because they don't exist
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Wow. I can just hear that comment made by King George: " I don't reads the newspapers!"
 
broadandbeaver: many people should be banned for many things... won't happen though, so i just say put up with comments like that because you'll find them all over the place... grow a backbone lol
 
spacemansteve said:
Genji: Do you have any proof of these allegations or just unsubstantiated reports from individuals?

I see these reports in the media all the time, but most of the time its made by the prisoner who is trying to gain something out of it. Thats what military tribunals are there for, and trust me they're working overtime to investigate these allegations and most of the time throwing them out. Which is something you don't hear.

Yes we all know about the Abu Graib prison scandal, but that was cleared up ages ago... theres no new scandal because they don't exist
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Abu Ghraib was a lie?? It was Made Up by...by....LIBERAL BUDDHIST HOMOSEXUALS!! :eek: The family massacre wasn't true? The US military believes it to be true. You have inside information? Is it a communist conspiracy?! :bugeye:
 
Genji: I never said that Abu Graib wasn't true... infact if you read my post correctly you'll see that i said it was a scandal... It happened, i know it happened. What i'm saying is that you always hear reports made in the media on these "scandals" and majority of them amount to nothing. I'm just trying to put some context into the picture after your military bashing comment.

Why don't you join the military? if your such a human rights advocate i'm sure they can put you in a cushy job in the legal department. You can investigate these allegations and then you can tell me if they're true or not
 
spacemansteve said:
Genji: I never said that Abu Graib wasn't true... infact if you read my post correctly you'll see that i said it was a scandal... It happened, i know it happened. What i'm saying is that you always hear reports made in the media on these "scandals" and majority of them amount to nothing. I'm just trying to put some context into the picture after your military bashing comment.

Why don't you join the military? if your such a human rights advocate i'm sure they can put you in a cushy job in the legal department. You can investigate these allegations and then you can tell me if they're true or not
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I would never join the US military. Remember the christian crusaders hate fags on top of all the non-whites. Also I'd be far more enthused about joining the enemies of imperialism and racism, displayed with pride by many conservative trolls right here.
 
Well then until you can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that such occurances are rife, Stop the military bashing. Its pointless... The military is an instrument of policy, not makers of it.

P.S. When i say proof i mean Statements, witnesses, evidence etc etc... until then its just unsubstantiated rumours.
 
Its nice to see that Genji can slam the US for an isolated incedent but says nothing about the continual Iraqi vs Iraqi violence that kills hundreds of people every week. "Ohh the Military is so bad but that Sunni vs Shite violence its ok....."

Hezbollah drove Isreal out of Lebanon?? LOL Are you on crack???
 
crazy151drinker: its just interesting to see that people are so quick to blast the US military about stuff, but when it comes to the majority of deaths in Iraq they fail to mention that its insurgents. And when they do its all the US's fault aswell...

I just want people to have perspective on the situation before they start jumping to conclusions. I want facts not exagerated reports in the media. To me this forum is about educating people. Sometimes i argue my opinion but ultimately people need to understand the greater picture.
 
A troll thread? wtf?
lol, i saw a title that interested me and i joined the debate. No malisciousness in it whatsoever. Having said that... WHAT THE HELL IS A TROLL?!?!?
 
A troll thread??

Many would argue that Hezbollah needs to get its butt kicked.

So for those who Slam Isreal for being nothing but a puppet for the US, why dont you Slam Hezbollah for being nothing but a puppet for Syria and Iran (being that they fund Hezbollah).
 
spacemansteve said:
A troll thread? wtf?
lol, i saw a title that interested me and i joined the debate. No malisciousness in it whatsoever. Having said that... WHAT THE HELL IS A TROLL?!?!?
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Trolls are like vega. They are usually the minority opinion in a site and they drop their little bumperstickers to flame posters and encumber real dialogue. They make silly remarks to stir shit like "Nuke the Ragheads!" and other embarrassing high school antics. They infest boards and ruin true discussion. I sometimes make the mistake of biting their bait then I get in trouble. And if there ever was a troll thread, this is it. A more meaningful and mature heading would have been easy to conjugate but we are talking conservative troll, so......
 
crazy151drinker said:
A troll thread??

Many would argue that Hezbollah needs to get its butt kicked.

So for those who Slam Isreal for being nothing but a puppet for the US, why dont you Slam Hezbollah for being nothing but a puppet for Syria and Iran (being that they fund Hezbollah).
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In my view anyone at war with Israel is a political ally of mine. When fighting occupation and apartheid, war and invasion you rally all you can to fight the enemy. No time for questionaires about how this group feels about this or that. It's a war and Hezbollah, Hamas and the rebels of Iraq are fighting the same enemies I have. After such enemy is defeated, THAT is when you deal with the more backward elements. If Palestine were secular and socialist and Lebanon was not regulay invaded by the 51st state I would consider Hezbollah religious extremists and fight THEM. Recall US support of these same groups in the fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Now they have been greatly empowered. The US created al-Qaida and the Islamic insurrection. I just side with those fighting Israel, a rogue terrorist state imo.
 
Right... so bashing the military the military and insulting every serviceman or women around the world is what then? Oh well...

At the end of the day, Facts are Facts, I'm not in a minority, i don't drop bumperstickers, i just point out the facts. Not my fault if people have a problem with logic.
 
spacemansteve said:
Right... so bashing the military the military and insulting every serviceman or women around the world is what then? Oh well...

At the end of the day, Facts are Facts, I'm not in a minority, i don't drop bumperstickers, i just point out the facts. Not my fault if people have a problem with logic.
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Like I said, troll threads get troll posts. Go ahead and soldier worship. Bow before the great Rumsfeld. Meanwhile I will bash the criminal US military, note their crimes and call for all who can to fight them. Worked in Vietnam, Somalia, Haiti and Lebanon.
 
Good for you... Infact i'm in the Australian Airforce as a Pilot... So Rumsfeld isn't my man. I don't worship soldiers, i'm just stating the facts. And you just don't seem to be intelligently discussing them. I always say that someone who doesn't reply to an argument with sensible debate, instead opting for Insults, abuse and generally wriggles out of it, is someone who knows they've lost

Kudo's to you
 
Genji,
I have had experience with the U.S Military,. I used to be a civilian contractor in Kuwait and I have nothing but the highest respect for the soldiers that put their lives on the line,. Their mission or nature of their operations might not fit in with your pro-arab ideology but they are soldiers and trained to do their job. Just because a bunch of politicans on Capital hill give out the orders to occupy arab land doesn't mean that they are evil. Being a soldier is a job,. You do what your are told.
YOur comments on rape and plunder show that you understand very little of the military and its okay to think that way because wars throughout the centuries have always had civilian atrocities and its wrong to point a finger at the whole army for the misconduct of a few blood thirsty soldiers!!

broadandbeaver,
Coming back to that racist comment you claim I made..your name or title itself sounds like a racist word. I wouldn't want to be called it if I was living in southern germany. It might sound a bit too offensive to the natives!!!.. Try changing it for the sake of a non-racist forum!
 
Vega said:
Genji,
I have had experience with the U.S Military,. I used to be a civilian contractor in Kuwait and I have nothing but the highest respect for the soldiers that put their lives on the line,. Their mission or nature of their operations might not fit in with your pro-arab ideology but they are soldiers and trained to do their job. Just because a bunch of politicans on Capital hill give out the orders to occupy arab land doesn't mean that they are evil. Being a soldier is a job,. You do what your are told.
YOur comments on rape and plunder show that you understand very little of the military and its okay to think that way because wars throughout the centuries have always had civilian atrocities and its wrong to point a finger at the whole army for the misconduct of a few blood thirsty soldiers!!

broadandbeaver,
Coming back to that racist comment you claim I made..your name or title itself sounds like a racist word. I wouldn't want to be called it if I was living in southern germany. It might sound a bit too offensive to the natives!!!.. Try changing it for the sake of a non-racist forum!
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Well said. Though I disagree with your enthusiastic support of all things Israel this post is the most mature I've read of you. I do not believe every single US soldier is a racist murderer. I know there are good young people in the ranks. But IMO, when you put on that uniform you have made a concious descision to seperate yourself from the working class. And become an enemy. An Israeli puts on an IDF uniform is doing the same thing; Joining with the enemies of the workers of the world. Demonstrating a full robotic march in whatever direction you are ordered by the war criminals. If you are ordered to slaughter 1000 Arab men, you do it. Right? My rationale may not be identical to yours but this is where some of my hate for the military (US) comes from.
 
Genji,
See there you go again!!,. branding an entire nation as " enemy" just because they put on an uniform that you don't like.. What's with the sporadic hatred??,. did a IDF in a bulldozer break down your house in gaza? or did an U.S F-16 fighter bomb the crap out of you?? your arguments are all one sided and do not reflect on the overall situation in the mid-east.
 
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