No, no, Doreen! I went to lots of nudie bars .....but I always kept my eyes closed!
Baron Max
It is time for us athiests to stand up for ourselves.
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No, no, Doreen! I went to lots of nudie bars .....but I always kept my eyes closed!
Baron Max
You have to say it when challenged by someone nude, but not necessarily in a nudie bar. In my hometown the local Atheists' Association like to catch people off guard, so they often send a nude person to the alleged atheist's place of business.
Reply: I appreciate your addressing the issue I brought up: atheists under attack. I guess no one else has an opinion on that. It happened just as I said it did . I did not find it all that odd myself. I sense a definate religious aggressiveness in America and I do get around a bit. ...Traveler
please god, if you have learned anything from this life and world, don't form a religious institution. make freedom and independence your mantra, and make it personal.
REPLY: We atheists are not organized. I have tried at times to find a group to join. They are so few and far between and have such small memberships here in America. I do not see it as a trivial issue. We have NO VOICE in national politics.All politicians have to at least pretend some belief in one of the faiths if they are to have any chance at being elected. It is not going to change anytime soon. But, I have started saying when asked, I am an atheist. It is a start. There are many of us out there. And I say it here in America, where it is not a CRIME to be one . In countries such as Iran it is punishable by death. This is what I am talking about. And even in America you never know what will happen. ...traveler
Despite my theistic intelligence inhibitions I found the following
http://www.atheists.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_secularist_organizations
http://www.atheists-online.com/links.asp
Note: the second and the third include large numbers of organizations.
REPLY: These are website organizations. I have tried to find any in my area and I would have to go over 150 miles to attend a meeting. I am unwilling to do so. My time is worth a lot to me. That is one way. I would also have to drive back. I will be quite honest with you. I would only be listening to someone preaching to the choir so why bother ? There would HAVE TO BE a Strong SEXUAL ENTICEMENT to get such a movement viable. I do NOT see that in the works. THE ATHEISTIC FREE LOVE GROUP ? Something like that might work. It might be worth a try. We atheists tend not to organize. Nude ins and such got the hippy movement going. I do not know. I do not have it in me anymore to make much of an effort. That is the sort of thing that made a real change in the 60s and 70s. It takes such motivation to interest people enough to actually do anything meaningful. Does that sound cynical and foolish to you ? ...traveler
I live in the bible belt an i have never put any emblim on my vehicles which woud indicate im atheist... it woud jus be invitin somone to key my car... an here in Indina a few year ago... at no estra charge they offer a License plate that says "In God We Trust" on it or you can get the plate that dont say that... so now all the God fearin people can tell at a glance who frinds of the devil are... lol.!!!
I believe in pretty much all sex between consenting adults and I believe in rights to assembly. What I think is foolish is really neither here nor there.
I googled
atheist meeting
and got
http://unitedstatesatheists.com/
http://www.ocatheists.com/
as a couple of examples.
My suggestion.
atheist meeting [your state]
REPLY: I ALSO,would never DARE put such an emblem on my car. It would get you killed, not your car keyed. A lot of those types carry guns and are not inclined to a fair fight. ...traveler .....This happened in Iowa, you are not allowed to carry concealed guns, I THINK.
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Talking to the women in a strip club, at least anything beyond the weather or such, is often a mistake. I remember talking to a heart achingly lovely young dancer once. When I told her I was from California, she replied (sincerely) that she had been planning to move there, but was afraid that there would be an earthquake, and that it would fall into the ocean. So she was staying in Arizona instead. Up until then, with no evidence to the contrary, I could hope that she was as intelligent as she was beautiful. But she robbed me of my delusion.
REPLY: Always keep your wallet, money on you. Where a jacket that has the means of securing it to your body while doing whatever. Many of these women are thieves and work with others. I was an MP on Okinawa for about a year. I heard about and saw a lot. Always keep your wallet on you. What the heck, you can screw with a jacket on. If they squawk about it, time to find another. ...traveler
First of all a topless dancer could care less about what the person sitting there believes and they certainly would not argue with a 'good tipper'.
Giving the benefit of the doubt (for arguments sake here) i would also say that he is more aware of religion and atheism whereas before he never gave it a second thought.
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REPLY: This happened just as I said it did. Do not call me a liar because it never happened to you. What planet are you from ? Do the people you meet seem consistant, especially christian strippers ? [deleted]
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The bit I can't believe is how you didn't respond to the strippers question with something more appropriate like..." Hmmm! I'm not quite sure, let's do some further research, let's re-enact the Adam and Eve scene (or at least have lunch), I'm sure I can be convinced, I'll just position this apple between my arse cheeks...."
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When talking to known bible bashers (godly folk) I sprinkle (nay, litter) my vernacular with loud and emphatic phrases.."Oh my GOD", "For Chrissake!!", "holy shit" etc. etc.
The conversations don't usually last long however.
The conversations don't usually last long however.
Fellowtraveller, John! If this tripe represents atheist intellect and sparky dialogue, I'm off to the other side.
Anybody here want to spread the good word. I'm all ears.
Anybody here want to spread the good word. I'm all ears.
It's not John, you're way better than that. I suspect our other chappie isn't though.