Israel's creation made Palestinians victims of Holocaust

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If there has been a Holocaust of the Palestinians it is the Arab world who is at fault.

It was the Arab's and Moslem Nations in the Middle East who refused to honor the United Nation Treaty, that they signed upon receiving entrance to the U.N.

They started a war in contravention of their legal responsibility to uphold the Charter of United Nations.

The Arabs of Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, ordered the Arabs who lived in the Lands of Israel to clear the way so they could invade and destroy Israel.

Even today the Arabs would make more refuges:

Hizbullah calls for Israeli Arabs to evacuate Haifa: In a step eerily reminiscent of 1948, when Arab leaders called on Palestinians to get out of the way so they could invade and defeat the nascent state of Israel, Hassan Nasrallah of Hizbullah on Aug. 9 ordered Palestinians out of the way, so he can have a clear shot at Israelis. "I have a special message to the Arabs of Haifa, to your martyrs and to your wounded. I call on you to leave this city. I hope you do this. ... Please leave so we don't shed your blood, which is our blood."

Israeli Arabs say no to Nasrallah: One day later, a former Hadash (communist) member of the Israeli parliament, Issam Mahoul, rejected this advice. "We have nothing to do outside of Haifa, and we have no reason to panic. The Palestinian people are especially unwilling to be refugees of any kind again." Mahoul also recalled 1948: "Nasrallah should have known that in 1948 the communist party was also opposed to Arab residents leaving their homes." Shadi Mzawin, whose sister and grandparents were injured by a Hizbullah rocket, had choice words for the Hizbullah leader: "I hope Nasrallah gets a rocket between the legs for what he is doing to me here, for harming grandma and grandpa."

The supposed Holocaust of the Palestinians today is still the actions of the Arab States of the Middle East in that the States of the Middle East still will not allow citizenship to Palestinians Born in their Lands, they will not allow ownership of land by Palestinians, or even the right of having a job, or bank account.

So who is causing the supposed Holocaust to the Palestinians?

In Israel those Palestinians who stayed have jobs, own land, have bank accounts, and the general freedoms of any other Israeli citizen, can the same be said of those Palestinians who live in the rest of the Arab world?
 
Still don't understand why European Jews should be transported to Arab lands, rather than given refuge in Europe or US or some other Western country. Whats a western state doing in the ME, putting natives behind walls and conducting military raids on them for land?
 
There might have been a chance 50 years ago, but you can't simply re-do history at a whim.
 
Apparently you can. :)

when every jew hater uses the holocaust to de legitimize israel, when the memory of those victims can be stepped on for something as law as political gains, when in 60 years in the future no one will remember why Hitler was considered a bad man for killing 12 million people in camps for being a parasitic race, yes you can change history.


do you pray(prey) for all the jews to die? or just those who came from europe SAM? or perhaps youll go easy on those who accept sharia law huh?
 
when every jew hater uses the holocaust to de legitimize israel, when the memory of those victims can be stepped on for something as law as political gains, when in 60 years in the future no one will remember why Hitler was considered a bad man for killing 12 million people in camps for being a parasitic race, yes you can change history.


do you pray(prey) for all the jews to die? or just those who came from europe SAM? or perhaps youll go easy on those who accept sharia law huh?

Do you think it should be conditional for Jews to accept sharia if they want to live in Palestine?
 
Do you think it should be conditional for Jews to accept sharia if they want to live in Palestine?

i think they should hang them along side all the dhimmis who refuse to accept allha(swt) laws and hes prophet-the infidels!!
 
i think they should hang them along side all the dhimmis who refuse to accept allha(swt) laws and hes prophet-the infidels!!

Isn't that too quick and easy? Would it not be better to lock them up with limited food and electricity and bomb them occasionally?
 
Isn't that too quick and easy? Would it not be better to lock them up with limited food and electricity and bomb them occasionally?

wheres the fun in that? lynching raping and killing is the way to go. as the best tradition of Arab history, and hes prophet.
 
wheres the fun in that? lynching raping and killing is the way to go. as the best tradition of Arab history, and hes prophet.

Nah, that was already done by the Haganah in 1946.


Dier Yassin was bad but the events that unfolded October 28 1948 in the village of Dawaymeh between Beersheba and Hebron were even worse. I cite Pappe:

"Venturing into the village the next day the Muktar (Hassan Mahmoud Ihdeib) beheld with horror the piles of dead bodies in the mosque — with many more strewn about in the street—men, women and children, among them his own father... 455 people were missing among them around 170 children and women. The Jewish soldiers who took part also reported horrific scenes, babies whose skulls were cracked open, women raped or burned alive in houses, and men stabbed to death. These were... eye-witness accounts sent to [Israeli] High Command within a few days of the event."

Not very popular these days. The latest is secret prisons, torture, flushing scriptures in the loo, naked men pyramids, mutual masturbation at gunpoint, waterboarding, beating to death, occupation and air bombing. I think thats the acceptable form of liberation these days.
 
Nah, that was already done by the Haganah in 1946.




Not very popular these days. The latest is secret prisons, torture, flushing scriptures in the loo, naked men pyramids, mutual masturbation at gunpoint, waterboarding, beating to death, occupation and air bombing. I think thats the acceptable form of liberation these days.

hoooooooooo pleeeasseeeeee, you said a 10000 times how it was perfectly fine of the palestinians to kill and murder jews back in 29 because "they" were threatened, so be quiet you hypocrite.
 
hoooooooooo pleeeasseeeeee, you said a 10000 times how it was perfectly fine of the palestinians to kill and murder jews back in 29 because "they" were threatened, so be quiet you hypocrite.

You mean Israel allows foreign refugees in unlimited numbers? Palestinian ones that is.
 
The Jewish holocaust was a tragedy that defies belief. None of us on this forum can even begin to understand the anguish and suffering the Jews experienced. The survivors deservedly needed a safe haven, and that became the state of Israel. Unfortunately the Imperial powers created that homeland by clearing out someone elses backyard and using ancient history as a influencing factor. History cannot be undone, so the best path forward is to find a solution via dialogue. I think thus far all parties concerned are equally guilty at not giving this process a fair go. Unfortunately everyone loses until a solution of land division with UN backing becomes a serious notion with all parties willing to compromise to find a peaceful solution.
Alas that is not possible given the present geopolitical agendas. :(
 
Hmm is that what the Palestinians are doing? Or are we talking about the Israelis now?:confused:

were talking about fiction. palestinians are innocent beings incapable of harming another soul. they are just innocent victims :(
 
The Jewish holocaust was a tragedy that defies belief. None of us on this forum can even begin to understand the anguish and suffering the Jews experienced. The survivors deservedly needed a safe haven, and that became the state of Israel. Unfortunately the Imperial powers created that homeland by clearing out someone elses backyard and using ancient history as a influencing factor. History cannot be undone, so the best path forward is to find a solution via dialogue. I think thus far all parties concerned are equally guilty at not giving this process a fair go. Unfortunately everyone loses until a solution of land division with UN backing becomes a serious notion with all parties willing to compromise to find a peaceful solution.
Alas that is not possible given the present geopolitical agendas. :(

:roflmao:
 
Unfortunately everyone loses until a solution of land division with UN backing becomes a serious notion with all parties willing to compromise to find a peaceful solution.
Alas that is not possible given the present geopolitical agendas. :(

Maybe, maybe not.

I think we are closer to a solution today than we were before.

For one thing, the Palestinians are getting a voice in the west, for another, their demands for a secular state are the more acceptable option all around. Its only the US that supports a two state solution now, besides the Israelis and with a decrease in American geopolitical power, that will likely change.

Haaretz has reported that the U.S. - like its fellow members of the Quartet, the EU, UN and Russia - is increasingly unhappy with Israel's policies in Gaza. Rice's deputy, David Welch, even told the last Quartet meeting that the U.S. "is not comfortable" with Israel's operations in Gaza.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/956934.html
 
Maybe, maybe not.

I think we are closer to a solution today than we were before.

For one thing, the Palestinians are getting a voice in the west, for another, their demands for a secular state are the more acceptable option all around. Its only the US that supports a two state solution now, besides the Israelis and with a decrease in American geopolitical power, that will likely change.

the only thing likely to happen is war between east and west. the Islamic states have sealed their fate with their fundamentalism and hatred.
 
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