Israel & Palestine

[S.A.M.]

If by support you mean "Mentally agree with" and by consequences you mean "Being granted citizenship to the only 1st world country in the Middle East" and by inevitable you mean "nothing will ever happen, and if it does and Islam was right...then I am screwed anyway for being Jewish."....Then you're right.

Here is a comforting thought. Based on 5000 years of Levantine history and especially the last 60 years of occupation history, you can rest assured that the Palestinians will not support doing to you, what you support doing to them.

 

[CheskiChips]

Here is a comforting thought. Based on 5000 years of Levantine history and especially the last 60 years of occupation history, you can rest assured that the Palestinians will not support doing to you, what you support doing to them.

We won't have a chance to see.

 

[S.A.M.]

You will, actually and probably sooner than you think. Most assuredly in your lifetime.

 

[CheskiChips]

You will, actually and probably sooner than you think. Most assuredly in your lifetime.

Not as long as the majority of the Middle East has something to live for. Israel won't fall, it has a unique language only local to that land, it has a currency, it has names that can't be found anywhere else, and it has a distinct style of dress. Even if you put someone else in charge for a day, it will be subverted almost immediately. (Oh yeah, Phalic Stein has none of those things)

See? Even the country of Palestine is Jewish.
Goldstein
Ripstein
Palestein.

 

[S.A.M.]

Not as long as the majority of the Middle East has something to live for. Israel won't fall, it has a unique language only local to that land, it has a currency, it has names that can't be found anywhere else, and it has a distinct style of dress. Even if you put someone else in charge for a day, it will be subverted almost immediately. (Oh yeah, Phalic Stein has none of those things)

The Hebrew language is a Canaanite one. The currency no one cares about, the style of dress is Middle Eastern and the names are found in Palestine. I don't know what that has to do with the occupation, which will assuredly fall.

 

[CheskiChips]

The Hebrew language is a Canaanite one. The currency no one cares about, the style of dress is Middle Eastern and the names are found in Palestine. I don't know what that has to do with the occupation, which will assuredly fall.

Okay, when somewhere a group of people that number 6 million start speaking Moabite or Edomite, then you have a point. Until then...
No, Jewish style is unique. And you can tell the difference between Jewish and Arab names...my name for example...doesn't...Ezekiel is not pronounced Zulkifli.

And it's true.
Anyone with the word "Stein" in their name is automatically Jewish, therefore, Palestein is Jewish.

 

[S.A.M.]

Okay, when someone a group of people that number 6 million start speaking Moabite or Edomite, then you have a point. Until then...
No, Jewish style is unique. And you can tell the difference between Jewish and Arab names...my name for example...doesn't...Ezekiel is not pronounced Zulkifli.

And it's true.
Anyone with the word "Stein" in their name is automatically Jewish, therefore, Palestein is Jewish.

And stein is an Ashkenazi German suffix. So all steins are also Germans, hence Palestine is Germany.

 

[CheskiChips]

And stein is an Ashkenazi German suffix. So all steins are also Germans.

Muslims also have a poorer sense of humor. Jews could not only retake the nation, but do it in a comedic fashion.

 

[S.A.M.]

Muslims also have a poorer sense of humor. Jews could not only retake the nation, but do it in a comedic fashion.

Moreover, stein is a German word meaning rock, so all Jews called stein are descended from rocks. Which explains why the majority of them are so hardhearted towards Palestinians.

It also explains why hasbara tactic number one is "We rock" :roflmao:

 

[pjdude1219]

We won't have a chance to see.

So you honestly believe that despite jewish states histories that Israel will not fall?

 

[CheskiChips]

So you honestly believe that despite jewish states histories that Israel will not fall?

Which histories? The ones that happened 2000 years ago, or the one that happened 2500 years ago?

Moreover, stein is a German word meaning rock, so all Jews called stein are descended from rocks. Which explains why the majority of them are so hardhearted towards Palestinians.

It also explains why hasbara tactic number one is "We rock" :roflmao:

You just proved we're more clever.

 

[S.A.M.]

You just proved we're more clever.

How is that working out for you?

 

[pjdude1219]

Which histories? The ones that happened 2000 years ago, or the one that happened 2500 years ago?

I thought jewish states in palestine started 3000 years ago according to you. or is that only used to try and unsuccessfully claim that jewish roots go back to before it was called palestine(the etymology of palestine predates the archeological evidence of a jewish state).

of every jewish state. the longest I thinks was of the khazars when they were jewish and that only lasted tops 300 year I believe.

 

[CheskiChips]

I thought jewish states in palestine started 3000 years ago according to you. or is that only used to try and unsuccessfully claim that jewish roots go back to before it was called palestine(the etymology of palestine predates the archeological evidence of a jewish state).

of every jewish state. the longest I thinks was of the khazars when they were jewish and that only lasted tops 300 year I believe.

1. Canaan predates Israel, that's even written by the earliest Jews ever to live. It was called Canaan.

2. The etymology of "Palestine" comes from "Plishtim" the first ever recording of this word is in the book of Samuel, not archaeological evidence. Those people also came from the sea and were not local to the area.

3. Khazars converted to Judaism and I they existed before they were Jewish, and after they stopped being Jewish.

4. The Jewish nation lasted for 480 years in its first reign.

 

[S.A.M.]

The Jewish nation lasted for 480 years in its first reign.

Are you certain? Didn't it barely last a century [if at all, there has been no archaeological evidence to support its existence, while Canaanite artifacts that predate it are pretty numerous]?

 

[pjdude1219]

1. Canaan predates Israel, that's even written by the earliest Jews ever to live. It was called Canaan.

they why not call it Canaan instead of the grossly inaccurate Israel.

2. The etymology of "Palestine" comes from "Plishtim" the first ever recording of this word is in the book of Samuel, not archaeological evidence. Those people also came from the sea and were not local to the area.

actually the earliest archeological evidence for palestines etymology comes from egyptian records. Not surprising you try and pretend it was jewish.

3. Khazars converted to Judaism and I they existed before they were Jewish, and after they stopped being Jewish.

they only lasted about 300 years as a jewish state.

4. The Jewish nation lasted for 480 years in its first reign.

first a nation is the people so if you believe that it would mean you don't think jews exist anymore. secondly no jewish state lasted anywhere near that long. your combining the united monarchy with its to succesor states which is dishonest.

 

[CheskiChips]

Are you certain? Didn't it barely last a century [if at all, there has been no archaeological evidence to support its existence, while Canaanite artifacts that predate it are pretty numerous]?

No, 480 years. And you're wrong. They've found everything from graffiti about Hezekiah implementing a draft to actual vessels under the temple. The Al-Aqsa people are trying their damnedest to get it all removed, and they're trying their best to desecrate it seems.

they why not call it Canaan instead of the grossly inaccurate Israel.

Because the Canaanites were basically slaves after the Jews entered.

actually the earliest archeological evidence for palestines etymology comes from egyptian records. Not surprising you try and pretend it was jewish.

I'd like to read about that one from a reliable source.

they only lasted about 300 years as a jewish state.


first a nation is the people so if you believe that it would mean you don't think jews exist anymore. secondly no jewish state lasted anywhere near that long. your combining the united monarchy with its to succesor states which is dishonest.

It's not dishonest, it's the same people, the same land, the lame language....different government. You're silly pjfood.

 

[pjdude1219]

No, 480 years. And you're wrong. They've found everything from graffiti about Hezekiah implementing a draft to actual vessels under the temple. The Al-Aqsa people are trying their damnedest to get it all removed, and they're trying their best to desecrate it seems.

so multiple states count as 1?

Because the Canaanites were basically slaves after the Jews entered.

So you want to use a more historical insignificant name due to your personal connection to it

I'd like to read about that one from a reliable source.

try looking up wikipedia's source for it. I'd like to here one reliable source to prove that it came from jewish languages

It's not dishonest, it's the same people, the same land, the lame language....different government. You're silly pjfood.

different state. Its dishonest. and I have asked you before not to call me Pjfood. but than again respect is beyond you.

 

[CheskiChips]

Apparently the same Sea people invaded both Egypt and Israel.

 

[S.A.M.]

Two important documents today, both taking aim at the pro-Israel Lobby in the US as a player in the I-P crisis

1. A leaked memo from PA [intentional?] indicating loss of faith in Obama

An internal document circulated among members of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' political party says all hopes placed in the Obama administration "have evaporated" because of alleged White House backtracking on key issues to the Palestinians.

The Fatah Party memorandum, obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press, accuses the United States of backing off from its demands that Israel freeze settlement construction and failing to set a clear agenda for new Mideast peace talks.

It wasn't immediately clear whether the Oct. 12 document reflected Abbas' views or was intended to be leaked as Fatah's attempt to pressure President Barack Obama to bear down harder on Israel.

The document said the Palestinians have lost hope in Obama and accused the American leader of caving in to pressure from pro-Israel lobbyists in Washington.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ioi_0jtO9RjMwPNRoXNCndRPRq3gD9BA4TMO1

2. A letter from J Street to Michael Oren

We too have our own serious concerns over the policies of the present Israeli government and its impact not just on Israel’s interests but on our interests as Americans and as American Jews. As Jews who care about Israel, we fear that, on Israel’s present path, we will see our shared dream of a Jewish, democratic home in the state of Israel slip through our fingers.

As Americans, we worry about the impact of Israeli policies on vital US interests in the Middle East and around the world.

Finally, as American Jews, we worry that the health and vitality of our community will be deeply affected by what happens in the region, how the world perceives Israel and by how our community here at home deals with increasingly complex conversations around Israel.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255450643490&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

edit: make that three documents.

A Ha'aretz exclusive: Palestinians draft a resolution on Gaza, Goldstone and the Temple mount

source:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1121025.html