Israel & Palestine

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Musichascolors said:
Lol, false, either a lie or a falsity, but no basis in reality whatsoever.
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Your delusional and talking out of your ass. You now on my list of people to read for humor. Just because you don't like reality doesn't make it not real. no matter how you want to cut it Israel and the jews are a western(ie european influenced) country
 
pjdude1219 said:
Your delusional and talking out of your ass. You now on my list of people to read for humor. Just because you don't like reality doesn't make it not real. no matter how you want to cut it Israel and the jews are a western(ie european influenced) country
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Oh there is no doubt that Israel is a Western influenced country. That's a fact, just as it's a fact that most Israelis are brown.

P.S. I go to a Sephardic synagogue and most of my family lives in Israel. I've spent months there. The majority of Israelis are brown.
 
Musichascolors said:
Lol, false, either a lie or a falsity, but no basis in reality whatsoever.
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80% of all Jews [in the world] are of Ashkenazi origin and are ethnically "white"

Getting tanned in the Middle Eastern sun does not make them less European in origin.

However, that is irrelevant here, the base problem although compounded by the ethnocentrism of Judaism, is that of human rights.
 
Musichascolors said:
Oh there is no doubt that Israel is a Western influenced country. That's a fact, just as it's a fact that most Israelis are brown.
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being tan doesn't make someone brown. they are dark white people.

P.S. I go to a Sephardic synagogue and most of my family lives in Israel. I've spent months there. The majority of Israelis are brown.
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I believe that as much as i believe everything else you have ranted. Your an extremist with an axe to grind.
 
S.A.M. said:
80% of all Jews [in the world] are of Ashkenazi origin and are ethnically "white"
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Most Israeli Jews aren't Ashkenazi.

You can "believe" what you like. Facts are so much better :)

pjdude1219 said:
being tan doesn't make someone brown. they are dark white people.
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Yup, the 3,000,000 + middle eastern Jews in Israel are just tan. Hey, so are the Iraqis!

The stupidity is delightful. Just admit that you were wrong.
 
Musichascolors said:
Just TRY backing that lie up.
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Why should I your first post backs it up. by the way thank you for providing the info to refute your argument. and its not a lie most Israeli jews are Sepahrdic and Ashkenazi. the formor coming from spain and portugual the other trace to northern france and germany. these too groups comprise 400000 more people than the third jewish group. Now 20 years down the road you will be right do to eastern people and eastern influenced people tending to have a higher birth rate but we are still here in the present.
 
Musichascolors said:
During the Jewish Diasporah (leaving Israel) Jews fled to various places, the ones who remained in the Middle East (and are now the majority in Israel, are Mizrahi. The ones who went to the Iberian Peninsula and North Africa are Sephardi, the ones who went to Europe are Ashkenazi. All have slightly different customs.

Humorous how you don't know this and yet vehemently argue a factually wrong point, repeatedly.
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Humourous you don't know that the Iberian is part of Europe.
 
pjdude1219 said:
I explained the whole north africa thing to you.
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And your explanation, that Middle easterners who spent a couple of hundred years in Spain before spending 1500 in North Africa are somehow "European" is hilarious.

Most Israelis are Mizrahi, and Sephardim aren't white (and neither are most Israelis)

You've never been to Israel have you?
 
Musichascolors said:
And your explanation, that Middle easterners who spent a couple of hundred years in Spain before spending 1500 in North Africa are somehow "European" is hilarious.
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So how are you calculating ethnicity?

Musichascolors said:
Most Israelis are Mizrahi, and Sephardim aren't white (and neither are most Israelis)

You've never been to Israel have you?
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What percent?

Musichascolors said:
During the Jewish Diasporah (leaving Israel) Jews fled to various places, the ones who remained in the Middle East (and are now the majority in Israel, are Mizrahi. The ones who went to the Iberian Peninsula and North Africa are Sephardi, the ones who went to Europe are Ashkenazi. All have slightly different customs.

Humorous how you don't know this and yet vehemently argue a factually wrong point, repeatedly.
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Then why does genetics put Jews in the same category as Turks and Kurds?

Why do the Ashkenazim come up as a separate ethnic group?

Ashkenazi Jews, also known as Ashkenazic Jews or Ashkenazim (Hebrew: אַשְׁכֲּנָזִים‎, pronounced [ˌaʃkəˈnazim], singular: [ˌaʃkəˈnazi]; also יְהוּדֵי אַשְׁכֲּנָז, Yehudei Ashkenaz, "the Jews of Ashkenaz"), are the Jews descended from the medieval Jewish communities of the Rhineland valley (in the west of Germany) and northern France.

Ashkenaz is also a Japhetic patriarch in the Table of Nations (Genesis 10). Thus, Ashkenazim or Ashkenazi Jews are literally "German Jews."
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Musichascolors said:
And your explanation, that Middle easterners who spent a couple of hundred years in Spain before spending 1500 in North Africa are somehow "European" is hilarious.
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so now were in the year 2900? they spent more than a couple hundred years in the Iberian. for someone calling people stupid when they don't agree with you you have a remarkablely poor grasp of the history of the movements of the people involved

Most Israelis are Mizrahi,
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yes
and Sephardim aren't white (and neither are most Israelis)
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yes they are and also by some definitions of white people so are the Mizrahi.

You've never been to Israel have you?
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Irrelevant but no I haven't. nor will i ever. I refuse to go to a country whose very existence is a violatation of international law. If Isrealis are brown why than do they look most like dark hued white people like the persians and the people of the balkans?
 
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