Islamophobia, xenophobia and anti-semitism In the west

What data? Are you saying that the natives were given equal status by those who conquered them? That their culture was allowed to flourish, thrive and benefited from the invaders?

You gave me the exact opposite data, that they became more protective of their culture to the point of becoming xenophobic themselves.

I was showing you how fcked up everything was before europeans came, how all ethnics groups were involved in despicable acts (this includes bantu, muslims, europeans)... and that it was not all "peaches and roses" before europeans came along. There was regular genocide, and constant slavery before we even got to this part of the coast.

People from the middle east and egypt had being exploiting bantu tribes here since 1 AD.

Silly goldfish.
 
I was showing you how fcked up everything was before europeans came, how all ethnics groups were involved in despicable acts (this includes bantu, muslims, europeans)... and that it was not all "peaches and roses" before europeans came along. There was regular genocide, and constant slavery before we even got to this part of the coast.

People from the middle east and egypt had being exploiting bantu tribes here since 1 AD.

Silly goldfish.

Thank you for educating me about the "savages" ; that was how the British called us too, did you know that?

We just could not be helped, we were so backward, with all our ethnic strife.

You do know that the Indian Arabian and European savages also grew out of their savagery by education and investment in cultural growth right?

The fact that Rhodesia did not is a mark against the invaders.
 
Thank you for educating me about the "savages"

What a disgusting word to use. Since I didnt use it.. .heck.. I would not have even thought of using a word to describe people... It shows how your mind thinks. Sis.

You do know that the Indian Arabian and European savages also grew out of their savagery by education and investment in cultural growth right?

Again with the savages, but at least now you are understanding that all cultural groups were responsible for evil.

The fact that Rhodesia did not is a mark against the invaders.

You do know its called Zimbabwe now? It has so since the the 1970`s... and that the name Rhodesia comes from Cecil John Rhodes.. a gay white man who colonized the area. Some people might find that name offensive to use.

Wow, you give racism a new spin it makes the head turn. If you are going to call entire ethnic groups "savages" then I dont have the time of day for someone like you.
 
What a disgusting word to use. Since I didnt use it.. .heck.. I would not have even thought of using a word to describe people... It shows how your mind thinks. Sis.



Again with the savages, but at least now you are understanding that all cultural groups were responsible for evil.



You do know its called Zimbabwe now? It has so since the the 1970`s... and that the name Rhodesia comes from Cecil John Rhodes.. a gay white man who colonized the area. Some people might find that name offensive to use.

Wow, you give racism a new spin it makes the head turn. If you are going to call entire ethnic groups "savages" then I dont have the time of day for someone like you.

I'm glad you outlined for yourself what the problems with Rhodesia now Zimbabwe are.
 
I'm glad you outlined for yourself what the problems with Rhodesia now Zimbabwe are.

The problems with Zimbabwe right now is corruption and greed. Something thats being with man since the dawn of time. Since you make a habit of trying to put your own disgusting thoughts into other peoples 'mouths' I feel the need to clarify this.
 
The problems with Zimbabwe right now is corruption and greed. Something thats being with man since the dawn of time. Since you make a habit of trying to put your own disgusting thoughts into other peoples 'mouths' I feel the need to clarify this.

Just remember that the dinosaurs died because of the evil white people.
 
The problems with Zimbabwe right now is corruption and greed. Something thats being with man since the dawn of time. Since you make a habit of trying to put your own disgusting thoughts into other peoples 'mouths' I feel the need to clarify this.

Of course, apart from that there are no problems.

Whats the status of teh colored folk like, these days?
 
Of course, apart from that there are no problems.

Whats the status of teh colored folk like, these days?

If by colored you mean the bantu people (here colored people are normally people with mixed white/black heritage)... well the current status of Zimbabweans ... is oppressed. Same as it has been for a long time.
 
If by colored you mean the bantu people (here colored people are normally people with mixed white/black heritage)... well the current status of Zimbabweans ... is oppressed. Same as it has been for a long time.

And the colorless people?
 
This is Australia right? Where indigenous natives who lived for what 70,000 years were converted to a colony? And reeducated that they should bring up their children as the Great Whitey Chief thinks best? Stolen Generation Australia?

SAM again you miss the point, the change in policy, the movement into the future, something sadly missing is Islamic society, ruled by Sharia' entrenched in the 7th century.


So Rhodesia has no natives.

And where is Zimbabwe today?


The humanitarian disaster in Zimbabwe has been described as a “man made tsunami.” Many of the people in this longsuffering country who have watched their homes and churches being bulldozed and burned by Mugabe's army and police are calling it: “the Mugabe tsunami.”

The systematic human rights abuses and persecution of Christians by Robert Mugabe's ZANU-PF regime are well documented. However, the media coverage of the Communist catastrophe in Zimbabwe has been surprisingly subdued. Public outrage in neighbouring countries has often been absent and humanitarian concern has been erratic and inadequate. Christians in Zimbabwe are shocked that so many of their African brothers support the oppressive government of Mugabe and seem unconcerned about their afflictions
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Today, a quarter of a century later, that once prosperous nation has been impoverished. The initial optimism and enthusiasm at Independence has vanished and been replaced by disillusionment, despair and desperation. Just in June, 2005, over 1.5 million people in Zimbabwe had their homes and informal businesses destroyed by Mugabe's army and police.


Someone should tell the Mongols, did you know their culture is entirely Persian?

SAM again your version of history and culture isn't supported by facts,
in fact the Mongols changed Persian Culture by their influences,

http://www.iranian.ws/7000/7000-5.htm

Chingiz - Khan divided the lands he had conquered among his sons during his own lifetime. Iran, however, he did not bestow upon any of them, and until 651/1253 it was administered by governors sent from Mongolia.

Iransaga - Persian Art, The Mongols ; Ilkhans Contd.
The key centres were in Central Asia, Azerbaijan (the principle centre of Mongol culture) and Southern Iran. The combination of Persian style with ...
http://www.art-arena.com/ilkhan2.htm

Persian miniature painting began in the Mongol period at the beginning of the 13th century, when Persian painters were exposed to Chinese art, and Chinese painters worked at the Ilkhan courts in Iran. It is not known whether Persian artists went to China before the 15th century; but it is certain that Chinese artists, imported by the Mongol rulers, went to Iran, like those whom Arghun used to paint the walls of Buddhist temples. Unfortunately, the works of these artists as well as the whole collection of secular mural paintings are lost.

Now lets look at how the Mongol Empire developed, it didn't come from Persia,

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But they are still elected by the Single Representative Vote.

But it still took special legislation to make that possible, and then fact that there are more Dalits than upper classes.
 
And the colorless people?

If by colorless you mean white people. Oppressed as well. Everyone is by the dictator Mugabe. I dont really wanna point out the Zimbaweans were more healthier and less oppressed under Ian Smiths government (also, less bantu were killed than under the current regime).... because the means did not justify the ends.

But my point that Africa was a mess, and has being a mess, and ALL racial and religious groups have committed the most terrible acts of depravity... still stand. You are making it a "whites only" thing... which is why my original idiom in my first post in this thread also still stands. "Pot calling the kettle black" = S.A.M.

I also remember what the Islamic invaders did to large parts of India and her heritage in the Turko-Muslim invasion. They destroyed it.

An estimate of the number of people killed, based on the Muslim chronicles and demographic calculations, was done by K.S. Lal in his book Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India, who claimed that between 1000 CE and 1500 CE, the population of Hindus decreased by 80 million.

Sir Jadunath Sarkar contends that that several Muslim invaders were waging a systematic jihad against Hindus in India to the effect that "Every device short of massacre in cold blood was resorted to in order to convert heathen subjects."[6] In particular the records kept by al-Utbi, Mahmud al-Ghazni's secretary, in the Tarikh-i-Yamini document several episodes of bloody military campaigns.[citation needed] Hindus who converted to Islam however were not completely immune to persecution due to the Caste system among South Asian Muslims in India established by Ziauddin al-Barani in the Fatawa-i Jahandari.[7], where they were regarded as an "Ajlaf" caste and subjected to discrimination by the "Ashraf" castes
 
If by colorless you mean white people. Oppressed as well. Everyone is by the dictator Mugabe. I dont really wanna point out the Zimbaweans were more healthier and less oppressed under Ian Smiths government (also, less bantu were killed than under the current regime).... because the means did not justify the ends.

But my point that Africa was a mess, and has being a mess, and ALL racial and religious groups have committed the most terrible acts of depravity... still stand. You are making it a "whites only" thing... which is why my original idiom in my first post in this thread also still stands. "Pot calling the kettle black" = S.A.M

"Africa has always been a mess".

Yes, and the influence of the white man still undermines them.

The structural adjustment policies are the biggest factor holding back Africa today. And they are nothing but a continuation of the colonialism that has beset African resources since the last few hundred years.

Sorry about the dictator, cant you get rid of him?
 
Remember how the slave trade started with the western europeans?

Oh that's right, constant warfare between African tribes and the POWs being sold to whoever they could find to sell them to, be they the inland tribes selling to arab traders or coastal tribes selling to european traders.

Maybe Africa should return to the status quo from before the first ship left Portugal to Africa?
 
Remember how the slave trade started with the western europeans?

Oh that's right, constant warfare between African tribes and the POWs being sold to whoever they could find to sell them to, be they the inland tribes selling to arab traders or coastal tribes selling to european traders.

Maybe Africa should return to the status quo from before the first ship left Portugal to Africa?

By color, it was an European invention. The others were indiscriminate slavers.

And the Africans may prefer to be without the starvation and armed conflict (thanks to the "free trade" and pouring of guns from the west)
 
Africa has always been a mess.

Yes, and the influence of the white man still undermines them.

The structural adjustment policies are the biggest factor holding back Africa today. And they are nothing but a continuation of the colonialism that has beset African resources since the last few hundred years.

Sorry about the dictator, cant you get rid of him?

Yes, but again Sam with your racism. It was influenced by Muslims before white men came around, and today is currently being exploited by Chinese. WAKE UP SAM. Stop throwing your name away.
 
Sorry about the dictator, cant you get rid of him?

Well, I am South Africa... different country all together. And I cant think of a single citizen (black/white/colored) here who wouldnt like to get rid of him.

However, our new BLACK ANC government supports him. South Africa supplies Mugabes electricity and has made a point of letting him fuck up the country as he wants. Its called "quiet diplomacy" and all it is basically, is a bunch of old "comrades" supporting each other for when they worked together with the Russians.

You do know that South Africa... and by South Africa I mean our ANC black government, used their first vote on the UN security council to vote against basic human rights in Burma.

The structural adjustment policies are the biggest factor holding back Africa today. And they are nothing but a continuation of the colonialism that has beset African resources since the last few hundred years.

And the point of this post is not to run down Bantu politics... because its just as fucked up as the rest of the worlds. Except here they have more guns.

But started with Iranians in 1AD... your point?

Its not white men in the politics here, its all bantu.
 
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Yes, but again Sam with your racism. It was influenced by Muslims before white men came around, and today is currently being exploited by Chinese. WAKE UP SAM. Stop throwing your name away.

You do know that there are blacks in Muslim countries? The color based discrimination is a phenomenon that followed the westernisation of the people.

Which is why you have black Arabs vs black Africans with maybe a shade of difference between the black.
 
Well, I am South Africa... different country all together. And I cant think of a single citizen (black/white/colored) here who wouldnt like to get rid of him.

However, our new BLACK ANC government supports him. South Africa supplies Mugabes electricity and has made a point of letting him fuck up the country as he wants. Its called "quiet diplomacy" and all it is basically, is a bunch of old "comrades" supporting each other for when they worked together with the Russians.

You do know that South Africa... and by South Africa I mean our ANC black government, used their first vote on the UN security council to vote against basic human rights in Burma.


But started with Iranians in 1AD... your point?

Its not white men in the politics here, its all bantu.

And the point of this post is not to run down Bantu politics... because its just as fucked up as the rest of the worlds. Except here they have more guns.

Yeah, its like the Israelis emulating the policies of pure blood after suffering for it.
 
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