is this natural
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Homosexuality wasn't a very good example for me to use because it has (for the most part) become socially acceptable. What if I were to use pedophilia as an example? Would anyone take me seriously if I stated that pedophilia is not unnatural? It may be uncommon or socially unacceptable, but that doesn't mean it's unnatural does it?
-Kyle
BTW, how do you spell "un-natural?" I'm too lazy to look it up
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-Kyle
BTW, how do you spell "un-natural?" I'm too lazy to look it up
.Homosexuality is merely natures way of ensuring the truly gifted are NEVER burdened with children.
As for natural? I tire of explaining this again. Check the archives it'll be under
'same ol same ol'
let's talk about why heterosexual men with foreskins rarely wash underneath them. Should we blame the parents?
I understand that to most americans this subject is moot. empathise!
As for natural? I tire of explaining this again. Check the archives it'll be under
'same ol same ol'
let's talk about why heterosexual men with foreskins rarely wash underneath them. Should we blame the parents?
I understand that to most americans this subject is moot. empathise!
George Carlin went on a slightly-related nice little rant. He was talking about a valid point in how environmentalists are dumb-arses and he started talking about plastic. He said surely if we all have a purpose than man has a purpose. And what was his purpose? Plastic! And now that the earth has the plastic she wanted, she will dispose of us. How? By a human immuno-deficiancy virus!
Anyway, while this may be a valid point it's useless. The only people you need to argue homosexuality to is religious folk. And logic don't matter in that arena.
Anyway, while this may be a valid point it's useless. The only people you need to argue homosexuality to is religious folk. And logic don't matter in that arena.
Originally posted by Nebula
I've come to a conclusion: NOTHING is "unatural". Homosexuality can't be called unatural because it happens, therefore it is natural. Does anyone see what I'm getting at? Does anyone dare oppose me?
Complete semantics runaround...
Homosexuality is natural, with a natural consequence of oppression of homosexuals who attempt to integrate into the mainstream of an animal social group.
So what have we proved?
Language as labyrinth.
I'm not exclusively talking about homosexuality, I merely used it as an example because most of us are familiar with the Christian stance: homosexuality goes against how God designed us and is thus unnatural.
And prozak, I realize my original comment may have been a bit circular.
It's like the classic 3 bandit scenario:
Bandits 1&2: Why did you get 5 pearls while we only got two each?
Bandit 3: Because I'm the leader.
Bandits 1&2: What makes you the leader?
Bandit 3: I have the most pearls.
And prozak, I realize my original comment may have been a bit circular
.It's like the classic 3 bandit scenario:
Bandits 1&2: Why did you get 5 pearls while we only got two each?
Bandit 3: Because I'm the leader.
Bandits 1&2: What makes you the leader?
Bandit 3: I have the most pearls.
Homosexuality: The only people this really matters to are those with too much free time and too much interest in other peoples' affairs. Screw it. It realy doesn't matter. Will it really make your dinner taste better or your gas bills cheaper if some political lobby group goes one way or another on this? Who the fudge cares?
Natural vs Unnatural: Nature tries everything, it seems to me. Within certain physical laws (which I personally think we are just beginning to nail down right now), Nature tries everything. One way or another, throughout the universe, all sorts of stuff happens by chance or design now and then. Endless variety is natural. So is stasis, when one of those varieties results in something stable and functional. Yin and yang dudes. Chaos and order, stability and flux. Everything is natural.
Natural vs Unnatural: Nature tries everything, it seems to me. Within certain physical laws (which I personally think we are just beginning to nail down right now), Nature tries everything. One way or another, throughout the universe, all sorts of stuff happens by chance or design now and then. Endless variety is natural. So is stasis, when one of those varieties results in something stable and functional. Yin and yang dudes. Chaos and order, stability and flux. Everything is natural.
The world 'unnatural' is loaded word meant to judge and condemn. It is an invention of Christianity, and especially in the context of homosexuality what they really mean is that it is socially unacceptable.
The word is today also wrongly used in other contexts, e.g., "unnatural death". Now death cannot be unnatural. When a person dies because of say, stabbing, it is a perfectly natural response of the body to a lethal attack. If the attack is Lethal, and the person does not die, that would be 'unnatural'.
The word is today also wrongly used in other contexts, e.g., "unnatural death". Now death cannot be unnatural. When a person dies because of say, stabbing, it is a perfectly natural response of the body to a lethal attack. If the attack is Lethal, and the person does not die, that would be 'unnatural'.