We can explain how two entangled states are justly so over infinitely large states.
There are many models in physics which attempts to explain it.
Which one did you have in mind sir?
We can explain how two entangled states are justly so over infinitely large states.
Bohm explanded on de Broglie wave mechanics.
Both Einstein and de Broglie were not fans of Bohmian mechanics which is what de Broglie-Bohm pilot-wave theory is.
It's so much deeper than that... and actually today the Bohmian interpretation seems to fit most parameters in physics. For instance, the Wheeler de Witt equation predicts that our universe is static. If that is true, then there are doorways to a determinism about the dynamics of the systems that appear to change in the universe. The Bohmian interpretation is based also on a wave function of the universe: the Einstein field equations when quantized lead to timelessness... this also uses a wave function of the universe. The Bohmnan interpretation would need to be a timeless theory.
There are many models in physics which attempts to explain it.
Which one did you have in mind sir?
The correct one.
When a downconverted photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, they are created with opposite angular momentum.
I am arguing in favor of hidden variables. Why does it seem you take my arguments to be against?Ok, but that still isn't telling us how two systems are entangled, say, at a theoretically-random distance... of say $$10^{10}ly$$, where $$ly$$ denotes lightyears, could instantaneously reflect each other in a symmetry due to a collapse in their wave functions?
It's not so easy to escape the idea of hidden variables, especially when we are faced with a scenario which quantum physics so far fails to find a mechanical reason for it. It's almost akin to how maybe classical physicists felt when they where faced with quantum mechanics itself?
It's so much deeper than that... and actually today the Bohmian interpretation seems to fit most parameters in physics. For instance, the Wheeler de Witt equation predicts that our universe is static. If that is true, then there are doorways to a determinism about the dynamics of the systems that appear to change in the universe. The Bohmian interpretation is based also on a wave function of the universe: the Einstein field equations when quantized lead to timelessness... this also uses a wave function of the universe. The Bohmnan interpretation would need to be a timeless theory.
But they aren't... the only way they could be created with opposite angular momentum, is if the system described by it's wave function was determined some how? Surely that isn't what you are saying?
Because when two systems are created, whether entangled in macroscopic system, or created from a single source, their spin is undetermined until their wave functions collapse. How they collapse appears completely random. My argument has been that it is not random. There is something more fundamental to the vacuum.
The evolution of the universe over time is very much like pulling away from a black hole. This is one reason why I think the nature of black holes is very important.Our Universe is a larger version of a black hole polar jet.
It's not this:
It's this:
Is there a medium in space, a medium of space, neither, or both''
If they aren't created with opposite angular momentums then they void conservation of momentum.
The evolution of the universe over time is very much like pulling away from a black hole. This is one reason why I think the nature of black holes is very important.
But I have to say I don't think our universe is literally a black hole polar jet.
There is always a conservation of angular momentum, this is why when two entangled particles are created, which haven't had their wave function disturbed, both exhibit a superpositioning of polarized states. It isn't until someone comes and measures it, or it naturally happens through decoherence, that a spin is determined. When this happens for one of the systems, the other system immediately responds in the opposite orientation.
It doesn't respond. Due to conservation of momentum it was going to be detected with that spin regardless if the spin of its pair had been detected or not.
It doesn't work like that. Quantum mechanics cannot in any way describe it in any mechanical sense of the matter. This is why it was called ''spooky action at a distance,''... because no one knew how it happened. What is being proposed is that there must be something more fundamental at work.
I'm describing what is occurring in classical mechanics.
When a downconverted photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, they are created with opposite angular momentum.
As they are propagating with opposite polarization, they can determine their partner’s location and momentum based upon their own.
They are not physically or superlumanally connected.
They are entangled as they can determine each other’s state.
Yes but how? I don't actually know your thought-experiment off-hand, but I see no mechanism. If there is something ''based'' upon them, what is it? And how is it determined over extremely large distances?
Thank you for that. I'll address that post and the rest of today's posts later, but I do find it very interesting so far. Thanks for the great participation, and great attitudes.I'll answer this question wave. I believe there is both, there is a medium in space, which is the vacuum itself which is non-local, probably meaning that information can quantum tunnel large distances. I think this is the solution because matter can entangle to space. If this is the case, the information entangled to space is non-local by nature and can quantum tunnel infinitely large distances, depending on it's potential energy.
Our Universe is a larger version of a black hole polar jet.
It's not this:
It's this:
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The evolution of the universe over time is very much like pulling away from a black hole. This is one reason why I think the nature of black holes is very important.
But I have to say I don't think our universe is literally a black hole polar jet.
Cav, that is one significant difference in our individual models, your model and my hobby-model. Do your jets simply serve to recycle the medium back into the black hole, and then the aether gets jetted out again in an perpetual steady state? Just so I understand the parameters, that would mean you are modeling a finite universe with one steady state "black hole with polar jets", right.