Iran Celebrates Global Meltdown

[S.A.M.]

The truly ancient Persian civilization is Zoroasterian, not Islamic.

Of course they have an identity, but do they have a standard of living?

Why arent Iranians wealthy like their Saudi brethren?

They were. In 1905 when they first adopted a Parliamentary democracy [the first people in the Middle East to voluntarily do so], their nationalism and self determination was brutally crushed, first by the British and then by the Americans [in 1953]. At that time, most of the educated were already getting a western education and unlike their compatriots who were more socialistic and impressed with communism [like the secular Palestinians] they were capitalistic from the get go. After a century of being crushed politically, economically and socially by the Americans for their oil [the Americans knew that the Iranians would not only nationalise the oil successfully, but also manage it successfully, creating a model for the rest of the oil producing nations] what you see today is a society that has survived against all odds.

Inspite of this unilateral oppression by the Americans, merely to prevent the Middle East from self determination, Iranians have always presented continuous and consistent peace plans, which have been rejected by the US since the 1980s. Because they held hostage some of the Americans in 1979 after being fed up of being tortured and murdered for 25 years under a despot appointed by the US, with a secret police trained by the CIA. Hows that for irony?

 

[Carcano]

Ok, but Iran is still making loads of cash from the oil business...cash which doesnt seem to be evenly distributed.

Wheres all the money going???

Swiss accounts?

 

[S.A.M.]

Since the US punishes [with sanctions] anyone who does business with them and they are not allowed to use western banks [if they do, the Americans hijack the money and "hold" it so they cannot access it], they have a very limited economy. Their economy is supported entirely by oil. The rest of the money goes into subsidies and research so they can keep themselves self sufficient.

 

[Carcano]

Their economy is supported entirely by oil. The rest of the money goes into subsidies and research so they can keep themselves self sufficient.

Why not INVEST the money to create a manufacturing sector that will benefit the majority...instead of distributing handouts like the Saudis to their 32,000 unemployed princes???

 

[S.A.M.]

Most of their money subsidises oil, its the only wealth they have which to share in the country. What would happen in the US if no one bought American goods or the dollar?

 

[Carcano]

its the only wealth they have which to share in the country.

Yes but they dont share it. The majority standard of living is terrible.

Again, wheres all the oil money going?

 

[S.A.M.]

I think about 80% of it goes to refine their crude oil and subsidise it to the country. Why do you think they want to invest in alternative energy and refine their own oil?

 

[iceaura]

Yes but they dont share it. The majority standard of living is terrible.

Again, wheres all the oil money going?

They are under sanctions, have been for many years. They cannot "invest" or "share" or otherwise trade normally, as other countries can. And they are not only still recovering from invasion and war, but are surrounded by direct military threat - have been for many years - so their economy must support a large military, and their politics are damaged by martial impositions and demands.

They could possibly adopt more of a Cuban arrangement. Would you approve?

 

[OilIsMastery]

I'm wondering why Americans who have imposed economic sanctions and stunted Iran's economy since the 1970s

S.A.M., you actually think America could benefit Iran if they removed sanctions? I'm shocked. I thought you think America and capitalism only harm their trade partners because they are evil incarnate.

 

[OilIsMastery]

Why arent Iranians wealthy like their Saudi brethren?

Because Allah is punishing them for their misdeeds.

 

[pjdude1219]

While Iran has done bad things a country does have the right to be happy over the misfortunes of a country that has been belligerant towards them.

 

[spidergoat]

Otheadp is right, no country is an island, Iran will suffer as much as anyone else in a global financial meltdown.

 

[Mr.Spock]

so how much is the oil price now? iran only source of income.

 

[S.A.M.]

I'm surprised OPEC hasn't reduced output

 

[Asguard]

sam actually so am i, i paid $1.44L yesterday and thats with a falling AU$. Even though it WAS tuesday, to say i was surprised would be an understatment.

If oil keeps low (and china stays strong) we may just come out of this barely scaved

 

[Carcano]

They are under sanctions, have been for many years. They cannot "invest" or "share" or otherwise trade normally, as other countries can. And they are not only still recovering from invasion and war, but are surrounded by direct military threat - have been for many years - so their economy must support a large military, and their politics are damaged by martial impositions and demands.

They could possibly adopt more of a Cuban arrangement. Would you approve?

Dont know anything about Cuba, but I realize now that Iran's economy is far more diverse than I thought. They actually manufacture many of their own cars, ships, machinery, etc.

I also admire how the government has taken over the banking industry and uses handling fees instead of interest...according to Sharia law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Iran#Manufacturing

 

[Michael]

Iranians should stand ready to manage the world[/b].

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:roflmao:

Sorry, I had to post this, it was just too damn funny.

Haaaaa I was watching BBC today, falling oil prices have resulted in one of Iran's state owned oil company being posed to go bankrupt.
pfffffff the irony the irony ... too funny. Since the drop in oil prices Iran's economy is tanking - they've lost about 1/2 their economic revenues for the year on end.

Can you imagine?!? They've been making money hand over fist and didn't put hardly any away for a rainy day.

I love the irony, really it's too good. ... maybe Iranians should think again about getting a new government.


Now I'm waiting to see what SAM has to say when she no longer has to worry about the big bad west and their big bad trade deals -cause there aint going to be much if any trading period.

Interesting times,

 

[skywalker]

Haaaaa I was watching BBC today, falling oil prices have resulted in one of Iran's state owned oil company being posed to go bankrupt.


Interesting times,

Haha.. funny... what is your obesession with SAM? did she go lorena bobbit on you? lmao...