Thoreau
Valued Senior Member
Another thread regarding free speech encouraged me to create this...
Ok, so the issue is Freedom and why I believe that freedom does not exist ANYWHERE in the world.
People always refer to America as a free nation.
"Freedom isn't free"
"Land of the free"
Blah blah blah blah...
How can we be a "free nation" when we have so many rules and laws telling us what we can do. Yes, we have more rights than some other countries, however we are far from being "free."
I believe this because the purpose of government is to control its people. And while government exists, freedom does not.
A few examples of how freedom is an illusion...
Taxes
What happens when we don't pay?
We go to jail.
Its a rule we all must obide by in order to keep from being locked in a 4x5 concrete box.
Hell, you can't even buy a car or home without having someone tell you that you have to pay this and pay that. You can't send your kids to school or buy a ding dong without having to pay taxes.
Civil Rights
Its nearly 2008 and certain groups in our society STILL don't have equal rights because the government prohibits them. Ex. Homosexuals still not being recognized by the government; the ONLY citizens in this country that can't marry another human being. And it wasn't until recently that women couldn't vote, african americans were slaves, interracial relationship were banned and native american's were slaughtered.
Travel
We have limitations on were we can travel and when. 1st we need to get a passport, because without one, your not getting back in. Secondly, if you have family in Mexico, or anywhere else for that matter outside the US, and you want to visit, you have to tell your government why you want to leave the country, how long you'll be gone, and also go through hell and back when you try to come home.
Credit
For example, lets say your 40 years old and you've never established credit. Good luck buying a house to provide shelter for your family, that is unless your going to pay in cash. Credit is the evil of America. With it, you remain in debt, without it, you can't buy the important things in life, like a home or vehicle. *unless you pay in cash*
Laws and Rules
Refferring to those set forth by state and federal government in order to control its people. Again, there is thousands of things listed in this country telling us what we can do, what we can't do, how to live, even how to have sex and restricting WHO you can have sex with. Yes. Its true. Example, up until 2003, it was ILLEGAL for two members of the same sex to have sexual relations in Texas. In the military, there is a specific law in the UCMJ stating that you can only have sex in the missionary position. If you have sex any other way, it is a violation of the UCMJ and punishable by Article 15. You think I'm bullshitting you? No. Go look it up. We can't even get medical care if we are dying if we don't play by the rules.
These are just a few examples explaining the illussion of freedom.
So here is where I sit back and wait for the patriotic nutbags to come in and tell me I'm a traitor and that we are free and blah blah blah.
I love my country, I don't love government.
Ok, so the issue is Freedom and why I believe that freedom does not exist ANYWHERE in the world.
People always refer to America as a free nation.
"Freedom isn't free"
"Land of the free"
Blah blah blah blah...
How can we be a "free nation" when we have so many rules and laws telling us what we can do. Yes, we have more rights than some other countries, however we are far from being "free."
I believe this because the purpose of government is to control its people. And while government exists, freedom does not.
A few examples of how freedom is an illusion...
Taxes
What happens when we don't pay?
We go to jail.
Its a rule we all must obide by in order to keep from being locked in a 4x5 concrete box.
Hell, you can't even buy a car or home without having someone tell you that you have to pay this and pay that. You can't send your kids to school or buy a ding dong without having to pay taxes.
Civil Rights
Its nearly 2008 and certain groups in our society STILL don't have equal rights because the government prohibits them. Ex. Homosexuals still not being recognized by the government; the ONLY citizens in this country that can't marry another human being. And it wasn't until recently that women couldn't vote, african americans were slaves, interracial relationship were banned and native american's were slaughtered.
Travel
We have limitations on were we can travel and when. 1st we need to get a passport, because without one, your not getting back in. Secondly, if you have family in Mexico, or anywhere else for that matter outside the US, and you want to visit, you have to tell your government why you want to leave the country, how long you'll be gone, and also go through hell and back when you try to come home.
Credit
For example, lets say your 40 years old and you've never established credit. Good luck buying a house to provide shelter for your family, that is unless your going to pay in cash. Credit is the evil of America. With it, you remain in debt, without it, you can't buy the important things in life, like a home or vehicle. *unless you pay in cash*
Laws and Rules
Refferring to those set forth by state and federal government in order to control its people. Again, there is thousands of things listed in this country telling us what we can do, what we can't do, how to live, even how to have sex and restricting WHO you can have sex with. Yes. Its true. Example, up until 2003, it was ILLEGAL for two members of the same sex to have sexual relations in Texas. In the military, there is a specific law in the UCMJ stating that you can only have sex in the missionary position. If you have sex any other way, it is a violation of the UCMJ and punishable by Article 15. You think I'm bullshitting you? No. Go look it up. We can't even get medical care if we are dying if we don't play by the rules.
These are just a few examples explaining the illussion of freedom.
So here is where I sit back and wait for the patriotic nutbags to come in and tell me I'm a traitor and that we are free and blah blah blah.
I love my country, I don't love government.