I tried cocaine...

cocaine is actually almost tolerance free, you will experience the same 'amount' of satisfaction if you continue on using it. And the withdrawal symptoms is much weaker than with most other drugs'.
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Tolerance free? You must have the strangest metabolism on the face of the earth then. Oh, you're from Mars. I can tell you that my experience belies that opinion.

Withdrawal is weaker than heroin, that's for sure. In fact, unless you're a hardcore junkie, there's almost no withdrawal. But, there is a period within 72 hours where you get a fever and feel flu-like symptoms from withdrawal. It doesn't happen all the time, but does occur occasionally. Probably depends on how much you've done on your latest binge.

The good thing about coke is that it's effects generally wear off after a good nights sleep. If you sleep and wake up with a coke craving, then you are indeed a junkie.
 
No need for me to expose my resume on drug use to you folks but be assured I can wade into this topic, ohhh can i ever.. But before I do i want to make some comments on others posts....

Godless - rough trip man. Good luck.

Martian
cocaine is actually almost tolerance free, you will experience the same 'amount' of satisfaction if you continue on using it. And the withdrawal symptoms is much weaker than with most other drugs'. you can see why cocaine is very popular
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Ohhhh reaaaallly! Tell that to an ex-partner of mine who spooned with me for 11 hours in bed because I thought I was going out of my fuq'ing mind following a 12 hour coke marathon.

Dr. Lou (fuq u!)
Every dirtbag on earth takes drugs. Its not a talent.
I used to take a shitload of drugs, now I can look back and see that I was a low life piece of shit.
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You have no clue Lou..... Are you high right now?

My opinion is this: if you want to try drugs go ahead, don't let a bunch of half wits convince you one way or 'the other'[deecee].

There are things you should keep in mind before venturing into the wonderful world of coke use, they are:
Never buy coke off the street or from someone you don't know (if you don't know anyone or have no connections then don't do it).

Don't do a rail in the fuq'n john at a bar, within minutes everyone in the joint will know it. Go out to your car and do it.

Determine how much you want before buying it and stick to that - a famous line on coke use, 'One's too many and a thousand's not enough.' (ohh, how true!)

Look at it before you buy. If it is a little rocky with 'some' powdery residue it's good stuff. If it's all powder it's shit. This is important because the more powder suggests it has been stepped on, and you have no clue what was used to cut it.

Don't hang with people who aren't in on it with you. They'll know and the next day you'll feel like shit for the stuff you said the night before.

Never, ever, ever take it before work, school, Christmas Dinner, Barmitzfah's (sp?), your wedding day, a first date, court appearance or job interview (see Trainspotting).

Most importantly, remind yourself that drug use is only one small part of life - don't allow it to become your entire life.

I think it's important to know that you're in control at the outset and that you must always stay in control, otherwise you may find yourself drinking ethanol one day. I mean, drug experimentation is fine in my books but too many people fall victim to drugs because they're not in control at the start.

Oh yeah, always remember to forgive yourself once you've sobered up.
:m:
 
Cmon, people if you're mentally strong enough you can do what you bloody like.
Drugs are only a part of the formula.
Drugs-music-dancin-sex-food-laughter. Love.
Put them together and feel it.
 
Godless Fireguy Wes and Bigal

Yours are opinions that I can respect.
I do not advocate drug use nor can I advocate motorbikes or falling in love.
All of them are potentially damaging and should be approached only with due care.
My first post was a lighthearted response to a load of stock nonsense about the instant addictiveness of cocaine and the inevitablity of a rapid descent to hell of all users of exotic herbs and illegal chemicals.

I just wanted to make myself clear on this.

As for my habits. Twenty odd years of varied and regular use of all sort of things. Started by sharing bottles of cough syrup with the other lads at school never was fond of glue though. Got into Weed Coke LSD Psyclobin Amphetines Ketamine and E, (not all at the same time I hasten to add:)) during the early years of adulthood. Tried Heroin and didn't like it. Tried it again and didn't like it and that was pretty much me and heroin (I still take the occasional social toke though). Tried crack once or twice. Very nice but you can only buy it from very dodgy people so not worth the bother.
Now I have a job and stuff!
I have a demanding job with no small degree of social status and a big enough wage to pay child support, morgage, bills and for holidays on tropical beaches After those basic expenses I can still buy all the drugs my heart desires. Not a bad situation for a drug fiend.
I must be honest though.
If my consumption had continued at the level it was at, say, the age of 21 I might well be just a mothers memory right now.
Maybe I was lucky but then again I have made many friends and they're all still with me. Drugs have never been just a poor mans game. Trouble is it's mostly the poor who pay the price.
IMHO The ability to earn a decent wage and to learn from experience are the two main requirements of a serious drug habit.

Now you know.
Drugs are only for grown ups.
Pussies need not apply.
Dee Cee
 
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Tolerance free? You must have the strangest metabolism on the face of the earth then. Oh, you're from Mars. I can tell you that my experience belies that opinion.

Withdrawal is weaker than heroin, that's for sure. In fact, unless you're a hardcore junkie, there's almost no withdrawal. But, there is a period within 72 hours where you get a fever and feel flu-like symptoms from withdrawal. It doesn't happen all the time, but does occur occasionally. Probably depends on how much you've done on your latest binge.

The good thing about coke is that it's effects generally wear off after a good nights sleep. If you sleep and wake up with a coke craving, then you are indeed a junkie.
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The problem is with most people they want to keep using coke and not stop. This is why it is so much of a problem and it is addicting wether you think so or not. It isn't as addicting as heroin but it is right up there along side it. To many people start to party with coke and when they run out they want to get more and more if they could afford it. That is where they would sell their bodies to get another fix or line. Coke is a very powerful drug that will control you, you won't easily control it and if you think you can you are a fool.
 
Without drugs, I'd have never have known how much pleasure I could physically feel.
I actually don't need drugs anymore. I know the high, you can get the high if you know where it is. To get the high without the drugs, that is the greatest feeling in the world.
 
Cos....
Coke is a very powerful drug that will control you, you won't easily control it and if you think you can you are a fool.
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I am no fool my friend. Coke is, without a doubt, a very powerful drug.

I've seen several friends fall victim to its dillusional allure, lose everything then come out the other side - a terrible trip. I have, at times, found myself falling victim to it - hence the 12 hour binge I spoke of earlier.

I was no weekend warrior when it came to drugs, I've tried just about everything under the sun without any regrets. I personally believe those experiences taught me a valuable lesson about respect for drugs. I now have a respectful career making more money then I ever have and yet, I have absolutely no desire to get wired.

Cosmic... to boldly state that only fools can control coke is wrong in my circumstance and really emphasizes the misinformation floating around about drugs [coke].

I've said it once and I'll say it again: Before you do 'any' drugs remember that you're the one in control.

DeeCee - :cool:
 
I've tried cocaine too. Not snorting it, put lacing it in a blunt.

I've actually tried it several times. However, I don't do it anymore.

You may feel like it cannot hurt you, particularly because you probably are a teenager (like myself) and feel like your god - this in combination with its addictive compound will turn you into squash.
 
You know for a reason I'm not sure if I can explain, in my twisted little world drugs are pretty much an issue of free speech. Hell even more fundamental than that really. In all seriousness I sometimes would recommend that poeple try acid or mushrooms. I suppose if you're the philosophical type I'd put them on the 'must do' list. Must do a few times and then not do, but do nonetheless. I don't know if there is a more clear way to demonstrate the potential fallacy of perception.
 
Two tabs of acid can turn a trip to the mall into a feast of adventure.:)
Only for the strong willed.
Dee Cee
 
I've tried cocaine too. Not snorting it, put lacing it in a blunt
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One can always spot a rookie! They have a name for this it's called "A Primo" here in the Southwest.


Two tabs of acid can turn a trip to the mall into a feast of adventure
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True just don't forget dinner in the oven! speaking from experience, once on acid trip called "windowpain" a green blotter type of acid, not paper were one hit was able to get 4 people triping good, this fool "me" took 2 hits for a weekend adventure, anyhow I put a pot-pie in the oven, and completely blew it off, when crusing in my motorcycle, anyhow I got hungry naturally and stoped in TacoBell, when I got home my roomies back from work were asking lots of questions.LOL, oooops! Dooood I totally forgot about it!.

For those willing to try acid, time moves very slowly for your perception however time is going at regular pace, i.e. on my motorcycle 70mph felt like 40 slow and easy. However each trip is unique, and each individual has it's own trip.
Warning: if you are too much in stress this is not a trip for you, the effects of the drug could back-fire, and actually highten your deppresion, not aliviate any personal problems you may have. My best advise is be very coutious, when trying acid for the first time, though I don't advocate trying it at all, but kids do what kids do, so just be aware of your emotional state before proceeding to experiment.

You know for a reason I'm not sure if I can explain, in my twisted little world drugs are pretty much an issue of free speech.
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Well put Wes, however it's not speech but a "right"!. I don't advocate drug use, however I don't advocate a "free government" such as supposedly the USA, codoning some sorts of drugs i.e. alcoohol, tobacco, caffeine, etc.. and criminalizing others, it's not the government's job to be my nany. The war on drugs by the US is a war on millions of its citicens who do drugs on a regular basis and yet contribute to our society, the war on drugs has more taken a curve more like discrimination of Latinos and Blacks even though Whites are amongs the highest users, the blacks and latinos pay with drug senteces and jail time.

I personally believe those experiences taught me a valuable lesson about respect for drugs.
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Fireguy you've learned two things not only respect for drugs, but also respect for self, "self respect" is what drives many to quit doing drugs, and want to live healthier lifestile, been that longevity of life is what the human organism strives for, this is what you naturally sought out, to feel healthier and become more productive. Welcome! to reality.
Many drug users, don't thing of the long harmfull effects the drugs is doing to our bodies, naturally I got to a stage were I realised my health was deterioriating and had to do something about it, a change of lifestyle, if you will, chages your life around to benefit the human organism, then your reaching for ultimate happiness, a long life.

To get the high without the drugs, that is the greatest feeling in the world.
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True, and if anyone needs 2 know how to get high, without drugs here's a formula. Try running 5 miles, or biking 20 miles, or roller blading 10 miles in the hot heat sun, any physical excertion that you do will stimulate all kinds of chemical activity in your brain, to keep the machine of your body running, when your done with the physical activity your relaxaction will feel like a high. When I first quit I used to run at least 3 miles every-morning, painfull at first but kept at it, after work I lift weights for about 2 hours, I slept like a baby.

Godless.
 
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I don't usually point up typo's but if thats how you type when your sober then your philosophy is a wise one truth.
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That computer's keyboard was screwed up, when "s"s are concerned... :p
Some of those worstations at school are really bad.... :bugeye:
 
Drugs, eh? Been there, done that, done just about all of them in my youth. Many in enormous quantities. Looking back at the "drug years" it just seems like a big waste of time and money now. Oh, it was fun, but really, how much more fun was it than it could have been otherwise?

Dee Cee, you first few posts make it sound like it's your religion that has been stepped on. ;)

About coke specifically, we used to refer to that short-term addiction as "coke mania". The first couple line were fun, but as the buzz wore off, you really, really wanted it to go on. Just until midnight, just until 2. Just until sunrise. Then the next day one of the room mates would admit that in the height of the mania he had done something stupid, traded his new prize possession, his $300 portable stereo that he had for less than a week, for a tenth of a gram line of coke. ($10).

It's amusing in the short term, wasteful in the medium to long term. I have tons of experience in this regard and don't recommend it for anyone. However, I don't condemn anyone for their choices either. I don't even do pot or alcohol any more (never liked the taste of alcohol), but I still smoke cigarettes. So who the hell am I to judge anyone?

In all things, caution and moderation. And remember, in most places this stuff is illegal and packs some serious consequences in more ways than one.
 
I do coc sometimes, I think people exagerate the addictiveness of it. I do see how people could get addicted, but I also see how easy it is to do it once and then say no. It's all about self-control and knowing what you want. The drug that is most dangerous is oxycontin. That shit is raw, since its pretty much synthetic heroine it brings a feeling of uphoria (spelling). you can rail it(snort) or just chew up the pill. this is my last week of highschool in norcal, and I see a lot of drugs. I believe its good to experiment, but when you see yoruself go everyday with a certain drug, you should know its time to stop. unless its pot, pot is good everyday. hurray for drugs!
 
LSD
Hazards Of LSD Psychotherapy

From the book Licit and Illicit Drugs
by Edward M. Brecher
and the Editors of Consumer Reports Magazine

From the very beginning, psychiatrists were aware that LSD, like most other medicaments, poses hazards. The hazards visible during the early years were summed up in a classic 1960 paper, Lysergic Acid Diethylamide: Side Effects and Complications, by Dr. Sidney Cohen.

Dr. Cohen sent a questionnaire to 66 researchers who were known to have administered LSD or mescaline to humans, either therapeutically or experimentally.

Forty-four of them replied; they had administered LSD on more than 25,000 occasions to nearly 5,000 men and women. Dr. Cohen also searched the medical literature for published reports of adverse effects.

From the physical point of view, LSD was found to have a remarkable record. No instance of serious, prolonged physical side effects was found either in the literature or in the answers to the questionnaires.

When major untoward reactions occurred they were almost always due to psychological factors. No physical complications were observed even when LSD was given to skid-row alcoholics with impaired liver function and generally deteriorated health.

As for adverse psychological reactions, Dr. Cohen noted that the published LSD literature directly records only one suicide and that in a schizophrenic patient, and a 'Small number of short, self-limited psychotic reactions and other lesser side effects.

Dr. Cohen's survey of LSD therapists, however, turned up several kinds of adverse psychological reactions. These he divided into immediate and subsequent. The most common, but still infrequent, immediate problem [Dr. Cohen reported] was one of unmanageability.

This apparently occurs when insight into the situation is lost and the individual acts upon delusory, usually paranoid ideas. Instances of running away from the tester, disrobing, or accidental self injury were described.

Panic episodes were likewise mentioned. When these develop early they seem to represent the terror involved with the loss of ego controls. At the height of the reaction panic may be precipitated.... Finally, after many hours of frightening dissociation the subject could develop an intense fear that he will not be able to get back to his ordinary state.

More at:

http://clickit.go2net.com/search?po...e&rawto=http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/lsd03.htm


http://www.egodeath.com/dissociativephenom.htm#xtocid15311
 
I don't know who checked, but apparently 90% of US$50 & $100 bills have microbes of coke - that's a lot of nostrils.
 
coke is not physically addictive.
you can do coke for years and one day stop and you won't feel physical withdrawal except irritability for a coupla days.
it is however very mentally addictive
especially if you're doing it and you're on a roll, you can't stop.
it may be cheaper than H per gram but you end up spending way more money on it per night.

once i was stoned and did a line... i was planning to keep my half gram of coke for 2-3 days. but it lasted for about 45 minutes.
thing is the high is so damn short you want to keep feeling it so you do more.

H on the other hand, you buy 0.25 gram (or even less if the dealer cheats you, which he most likely do because he knows you won't go and scale it but shoot it right away cause you're an addict) and it lasts you for a day if you wanna be high the whole day, or even 2-3 days if you do a little bit each day.

somebody said the first line of coke will be your best
wrong
my first line was pretty boring. i actually thought the dealer gave me baking soda... but the next day when i was stoned and did it, it felt pretty damn good :D

anyway
i'm not doing any drugs now.. only a very rare toke here and there
been there, done that... it's a pretty dangerous world

it's not just about what it can do to you physically and mentally... it's the whole scene of shady characters and the whole nature of drug dealers
the harder the drug, the more chances you have of getting shot or robbed or who knows what.

then there are the ppl who you chill with when you're high... your coke buddies, who are drug fiends just like you - they will hesitate not even for a second to cheat you out of your dose or borrow money, but "just until the next paycheck, i promise!"

i have 3 people that owe me in total about $1100

and then there are cops, and society's view on a "druggy", the difficulty of getting certain jobs with a criminal record (or with a damaged brain)

naaa.. drugs are not for me..
that is, until i need a really nice escape and i can't handle reality
ppl say "drugs are not an escape" and i say "fuck you" lol
haven't found anything so bad to be upset about, but in extreme situations i'd probably do something

as far as hallucinations go, E is the best (haven't tried acid yet)
things that look as real as my hand just pop out of nowhere and start spinning or changing color. really entertaining..
but E gives you depression and long-term brain damage
the entertainment does not come without a price

keep that in mind, Roman
 
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