I tried cocaine...

I guess I have too high self-esteem to smoke or drink just so that I can feel welcomed.
Thats impressive, because if I was you I'd have NO self esteem
haha
:high fives everyone except truthseeker:
 
What a load of sad bastards....
Your unparallelled lack of hedonistic sensibilities leaves so much to be desired.
I'm frankly disappointed
It's a fucking miracle drug.
No it's not it's just a bit of 'sniff'.
The first line you did will be the best line you'll ever do.
You need to stop for month or three nexus
Gets you right back to square one.
There's always pills and billy whizz if your easily bored in the meantime.
You've seen the good it has to offer, the rest is shit
The rest being?
What year you first hit the snow Lou?
It will eventually "control" you and take away everything you value.
LoL!
I suspect your not talking from experience cosmic if you are then you should never have come to the party.
I know I sound very un-cool
But at least you sound honest Teri.
Oh and the answer is yes you can stop after one go, you can even stop after a six gram stag weekend in Amsterdam.
You'd sell your soul, if you have one,, for heroin or coke fix, that's how addictive they are.
Flash of lightning!!!!
Roll of Thunder!!!!
DA DA DADA!
:p
I have heard this before, but I have a hard time believing alcohol is as addicting as heroin.
Alcohol is the worse drug on the block.
It's not even the cheapest anymore.
Why do that to yourself...
I would probably be ok with any drugs. But I don't do it, it is part of my philosophy. I'm too responible to ue thoe things,
I don't usually point up typo's but if thats how you type when your sober then your philosophy is a wise one truth.

Some of you boys are Okay but most of you are pussies.
I bet your all American.
Just wait until morning. When the Europeans wake up and start posting you'll find out just how little you know of hardcore drug usage.
Most of us have pissed out more narcotics than you boys will take in a lifetime.
Anybody else here ever drunk ethanol?
Thought not!
Pussies!
Dee Cee :m:
 
You need to stop for month or three nexus
Gets you right back to square one.

I've quite for periods longer than that and have never experienced the feeling exactly like the first time I did it. My mind is not what it was then, I don't think in the same way as I did then, I've got too many experiences stacked on top of that innocent boy who tried it so long ago. But, as I've said, stimulants just aren't my cup of tea. I just get uptight, nervous, and uncomfortable. Not my idea of a good time. I haven't done any in at least 5 years. And I can honestly say that I'll never do it again. It doesn't thrill me at all.

Coke can be addictive if one does it often enough. But if it is used in moderation, the short-term addiction wears off with a good nights sleep. But there are junkies out there that would sell their souls for some coke. They would sell their mother's dentures for coke. They would whore themselves out for coke. Does everyone who tries coke end up this way? No. Absolutely not. But as I said, it's a slippery slope. There's only one way to find out if you're that kind of person. And once you do it's too late.

And about your hedonistic sensibilities, I have seen hedonism destroy too many lives. I've had my fling with hedonism and want nothing to do with it. All things in moderation is a good motto. Hedonism is excess. This world is sick with hedonism, it's time we grew up.
 
Oh, yes, let's all praise European drug culture. What a thing to be proud of. Hooray...
Well if thats how you feel then I guess I can only offer you the advice of Mr Welsh.

"Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family, Choose a fucking big television, Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players, and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol and dental insurance. Choose fixed-interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisure wear and matching luggage. Choose a three piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing sprit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing you last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked-up brats you have spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life."
Irvine Welsh Trainspotting

But who would want to do a thing like that?
Dee Cee
 
DeeCee said:
Most of us have pissed out more narcotics than you boys will take in a lifetime.
Now there's something to be proud of. There you go boys, the challenge is has been made. You must now all try and piss out more narcotics than your European counterparts. Just make sure your wills are made before you start the challenge.

Anybody else here ever drunk ethanol?
And you would want to do that because of why?
 
Danny: Don't get uptight with me man. Because if you do I'll have to give you a dose of medicine and if I spike you you'll know you've been spoken to.

Withnail: You wouldn't spike me you're too mean. Besides, there's nothing invented I couldn't take.

Danny: If I medicined you you'd think a brain tumour was a birthday present.

Withnail: Balls! I could take double anything you could.

Danny [removing his sunglasses]: Very, very foolish words man.

Marwood: He's right Withnail. Look at him . His mechanisms gone. He's had more drugs than you've had hot dinners.

Withnail: I'm not having this shag-sack insulting me. Let him get his drugs out.

Danny gets a doll out of a bag.

Danny: This doll is extremely dangerous. It has voodoo qualities.

Withnail snorts. Danny takes the head off the doll and extracts a handful of pills.

Danny: Trade: Phenodihydrochloride benzelex. Street: The embalmer.

Bruce Robinson Withnail and I
Sounds like fun!
I shall produce my first sample shortly.
Dee Cee
 
DeeCee,

I'm a European. And I don't do drugs. And yes, go ahead, call me a pussy if you must.

But what have you actually read in "Trainspotting"? Did you bother to read the passages that go into the reasons for addiction? The passages about not being able to handle one's own strong emotions, the passages about weakness, the inability to face responsibility? What about the egoistic heroin apathy? What about Renton actually being able to see all this and analyze himself?

What about doing drugs as a psychological self-defense?

Obviously, you praise drugs for this very reason: psychological self-defense. And you are so deep in this shit that you don't even see it.
 
there is a show in sweden "Kvarteret Skatan". (Homour Show)

They had a fun sketch. They saw a moose in the central downtown and took up a camera. They tried to take a picture but then the line was "shit, why does a moose have to be here now when we have done too much PCP to be able to handle a camera!"

That is why it is illegal, because you might miss out on great photos! :p
 
I'm a European. And I don't do drugs. And yes, go ahead, call me a pussy if you must.
Ok your a pussy.
Did you bother to read the passages that go into the reasons for addiction?
I did. How many of those reasons related to the molecular structure of endorphine anologs and how many were social factors?
The passages about not being able to handle one's own strong emotions,
Yup read that too. It's an common old theme and you don't need heroin to find yourself there.
the passages about weakness, the inability to face responsibility? What about the egoistic heroin apathy?
Not everybody feels obliged to accept responsibility and believe me the 'inability to face responsibility' comes first.
Then they find Heroin.
Heroin gives your total freedom from all responsibilities but finding more heroin.
Why do you think they do it?
One mans apathy is another mans contented peace.
What about Renton actually being able to see all this and analyze himself?
If you don't have that ability you shouldn't do drugs.
Obviously, you praise drugs for this very reason: psychological self-defense. And you are so deep in this shit that you don't even see it.
LoL.
You have no Idea babe.
Just how far down the path have you trod and who wrote your textbooks?
You seem to have lost contact with the reality of recreational polyabuse.

But of course I'm deluded, clouded and incapable of insight.
Guess your wasting your time talking to me then.
Dee Cee
 
Dee cee
There is nothing cool about taking drugs, just take a look around and check out your company, how cool are they? yeah its obviously no claim to fame. Every dirtbag on earth takes drugs. Its not a talent.
I used to take a shitload of drugs, now I can look back and see that I was a low life piece of shit.
If drugs are the highlight of your life you're pathetic, bottom line.
 
Just remember that any drug that you take can become addicting or habbit forming and that will cost you plenty of money and eventually you may even lose your life. If that is what you think is cool, then your just a fool.
 
Dr Lou Natic said:
Every dirtbag on earth takes drugs. Its not a talent.
True. But it seems that some think that it is a talent to be able to go on them for a while and then stop. They think they have what it takes. They are strong because they can take the shit, feel good for a little while, not have any worries apart from where the next hit will come from and then they get off the shit and live a little bit. Then the claims are made... 'I'm not an addict'... 'I can stop whenever I want to' and they actually do.. for a while. Some stop for a long while.. a couple of years maybe.

And then they think to themselves that they might have another hit.. had some problems and the shit will make it all go away again. They inject themselves and woohoo it feels good.. feels like it's their first hit.. oh yeah.. heaven.. literally. Their heart stops. A couple of hours later the restaurant management realises that the fool with his face planted in his salad is not asleep or drunk but actually dead. Then their family must then pay a visit to the morgue to identify their body and then make preparations for their funeral.

Yeah that's real fucking talent.
 
cocaine is actually almost tolerance free, you will experience the same 'amount' of satisfaction if you continue on using it. And the withdrawal symptoms is much weaker than with most other drugs'. you can see why cocaine is very popular

unfortunately you will get addicted that's the same as the other drugs. your mental health, your homeostasis, your finacial status, your family, your social life, your fertility, your car, your house, your dog, etc, are getting worse and worse. you can manage to live only 20 yrs shorter if you're lucky, and you'll be involved in countless accidents in the later life as a result of drug abuse

do not try drugs. it's the same as 'do not try jumping off the roof'
 
Dee Cee,

Not everybody feels obliged to accept responsibility and believe me the 'inability to face responsibility' comes first.

Oh, let me repeat that: "Not everybody feels obliged to accept responsibility" -- and that makes it okay to not accept responsibility?!

You should be grateful that you are still alive. It is not your merit that you are. You must have had a lot of luck.

Your lack of respect is just mind-boggling.
 
i'd say dont' mess with the hard stuff if you're stupid.

i've never done heroin, but I've sampled pretty much everything else below it on the "drug food chain", and I like them all. however, i was respectful that they were all more powerful than me and bowed straight out before ever forming a habit with any of them... well, besides :m:. i've always had a place in my me for :m: i hate beer though. there must be something wrong with me.

seriously, i think truly recreational drug use can be great and really enhance one's life in the sense of "knowing what it's about", a lot because altered states are interesting and if you're paying attention you can learn a lot from it. well that and there's a lot of just wild fun to be had there, i'll spare details. i would recommend though, an extremely humble attitude with drugs, as if you do not respect them they will kick your ass for real.

i'm pretty much past the experimental phase at this point. i quit smoking cigarettes two years ago, I'm still addicted to caffein and loves some :m: in the wee hours of the evening. i've recently discovered cigars which are nice.

i'm trying to get to the part about choice. in other words, i don't see why it isn't a perfectly valid choice to modify your cranial chemistry in whatever manner you like as long as you're willing to live with the fallout. that just means you better damned well put serious though into the fallout and who and what might be effected by it. as long as you can handle the results and live with yourself, that's all good. i may not make the same decision you do about it, and I might even discourage you depending on what i know about you, but i certainly don't disrespect you for it. honestly i don't see it as much different that building swimming pool for your ducks or some stupid shit. whatever you gotta do so long as you don't fuck people over doing it.
 
The drug scene, the drama, failure, life struggles of it all. How do we cope? by scapism? is this the best way to relate to reality by scaping into the ellicit drugs, alcohol, tobaco etc?

I've been drug free apx 10 years now, I was a crack addict, alcoholic, used to wear long sleave shirts in the summer to hide my tracks, I've shot coke, heroin, speed, done acid, lsd of various names and dellusions, done exstacy, a party with my friends and me was a cache of drugs if we were ever to have been busted, I was lucky I never got cought, thrown in jail because of drugs. The reason for that I think is because we were rich kids, and back then as it is now the drug busts mostly go on in poor neighborhoods.

What made me quit was a nervous breakdown the second one in my life, "what a crack binge of a weekend I had, that left my brains totally fried", an over explosion of emotion while having an argument with my best friend caused me to recluse and eventually have a nervous breakdown.

I spent two weeks in rehab, only to find out that the system is made up, only to bring you right back, the lack of success of these places should be enough to shut them down, the reason "government financed and managed" these people would loose their cushy jobs if everyone was drug free. The psychiatrists only prescribed other fucking drugs to "suppose" clear my mind, they only made me drool all over my self, couldn't see straight, and was becoming more incomprehensible. I had to fight with my family to get me out, and also to quit seeing psychiatrists, the next move was to hire a psychologist, what a waste of time, trying to communicate with some proffessional who has never even tried a joint!. I had to quit drugs on my own.

There is nothing wrong with trying a little here and there of what ever may make you feel good, however be weary of the feeling and the need to be "high" drugs don't make you better, they make you perceive that you are better.

I started at a very young age, my parents used to get a kick at seen me drunk during holyday parties, by the time of early teen I was an alcoholic like my father, some friend got my high with pot, and the rest is history of 20 years of my life.

So someone has done coke for the first time, my best advise is don't try crack, or best yet don't do it again.

Godless.
 
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