For some time we've had quite a few posts and threads that we've all agreed to disagree upon. One of the main ones is U.F.O.'s (Unidentified Fly Objects, which as Oli mentioned in another thread should really be referred to as U.A.P. Unidentified Ariel Phenomena)
Now I and some others identify that one main fallacy for people that "want to believe" is the point that a Spacecraft travelling light years to reach a planet to spy clandestinely on it's occupants is pretty absurd.
It's usually defined as being absurd because of how people join the dots together and tend to skip some serious science, for instance how does a space craft travel light years in distance? how long are they supposed to have travelled? how economical has this posed alien race made space flight?
Each question alone when looked at properly will decrease the probability of Extraterrestrials ever visiting, but still there are people out there that want to ignore all those facts and announce they are here and the governments of the world have been covering it up.
Considering of course that:
So without side tracking this thread any further, this thread is for you Alien invader/ UFO buffs to explain how your alien's have travelled light years and how they made it viable? so get imaginative and explain how to do the impossible, I'm sure we'd like to hear.
Now I and some others identify that one main fallacy for people that "want to believe" is the point that a Spacecraft travelling light years to reach a planet to spy clandestinely on it's occupants is pretty absurd.
It's usually defined as being absurd because of how people join the dots together and tend to skip some serious science, for instance how does a space craft travel light years in distance? how long are they supposed to have travelled? how economical has this posed alien race made space flight?
Each question alone when looked at properly will decrease the probability of Extraterrestrials ever visiting, but still there are people out there that want to ignore all those facts and announce they are here and the governments of the world have been covering it up.
Considering of course that:
- Rocket propulsion deals with two methods to create drive, one is based upon the release of pressure (in layman's, pushing force on a puff of gas) the other is of course attempting to propel mass through using Plasma. Each requires a vast fuel source and there is only limited ergonomics that can be applied to increase speed or distance of travel.
- There is also the point that Space travel to distance solar systems isn't economically viable, it's not like you can just in your Saucer cruiser, fly over to AlphaCenturi for the weekend to try for a spot of fishing (not saying there is actually anywhere to fish) It basically means if there was to be an alien craft then it's likely an entire planets populous would be behind it, do you think they would be on some sort of code of secrecy? I mean you aren't talking about one government keeping a secret here, you are talking about two planets worth of governments keeping a secret.
- The other small point is the chances of finding a planet with life in the universe. Currently we are yet to be able to identify star systems that have planets let alone planets with life on. Yes we can make measurements and guestimations in regards to planets existing in other star systems, but it really is an abstract guess. If an alien race sent a probe off to find life and they live on a spherical planet like our own then that is 129,240 directions based on whole degrees, which obviously can be made more divisible the further from the planet you travel. In short the further a star system is away the less "random" chance of bumping into another life forum.
- Lastly there is also the posed point in regards to Observer theory, where our universe is directly related to our observations. If for instance Gravity was shaped based upon Newton's observations, then an "alien" race might not share the same physics because they lacked "Newton". This would mean of course our universe and there universe would be different and we would never exist in the same universe together. This again would lessen the probability of bumping into other life in the universe.
So without side tracking this thread any further, this thread is for you Alien invader/ UFO buffs to explain how your alien's have travelled light years and how they made it viable? so get imaginative and explain how to do the impossible, I'm sure we'd like to hear.