Degrees of gayness?
Is it among the Afghani farmers where the saying was/is, "Men are for pleasure, women are for marrying," or something approximately like that?
I mean, it's hard to picture a nation of any ethnicity or creed in which males don't get around to the occasional circle jerk, late-night blowjob, or whatever.
Or, according to one English outlook:
Steel, Mark. "Sexuality". The Mark Steel Solution. British Broadcasting Corporation. London, BBC Radio 4. August 4, 1995.
S.A.M. said:
Is it among the Afghani farmers where the saying was/is, "Men are for pleasure, women are for marrying," or something approximately like that?
I mean, it's hard to picture a nation of any ethnicity or creed in which males don't get around to the occasional circle jerk, late-night blowjob, or whatever.
Or, according to one English outlook:
... [A]ccording to the statistics, one in twelve people are gay. But even this figure of one in twelve, where does that come from? Now, I come from a place called Swanlea. If you went up to High Street with a clipboard, "Uh, excuse me sir, I'm doing a survey--"
"What--?"
And even people who seem to be straight down the line, hundred percent heterosexuals, you go for a pint with them one night, and suddenly they'll say, "Well, there was this one time, right, when me and this other bloke--me mate, we used to play stucco--and one night all the tables were booked, so instead we went to bed together."
And even blokes who say they can't stand gays, it usually turns out they've had some homosexual experience or other. So they try to make out that what they did doesn't really count:
(Steel)
____________________"What--?"
And even people who seem to be straight down the line, hundred percent heterosexuals, you go for a pint with them one night, and suddenly they'll say, "Well, there was this one time, right, when me and this other bloke--me mate, we used to play stucco--and one night all the tables were booked, so instead we went to bed together."
And even blokes who say they can't stand gays, it usually turns out they've had some homosexual experience or other. So they try to make out that what they did doesn't really count:
(Three blokes are sitting in a pub.)
FIRST: Check out the new barmaid, eh?
(All three leer, bark approvingly.)
SECOND: Hey, uh, seen that Lovethorne bloke's dead?
THIRD: Yeah. Well he had it coming.
FIRST: Yeah, it's disgusting what they get up to.
SECOND: I mean, how can you do that with another bloke? You know, I mean, it's not like when you were seventeen and larking about, like, you know?
THIRD: Oh, yeah, yeah, you mean play about with each other in the showers after football? I mean, well, everybody does that!
FIRST: Yeah, well, that's just a laugh, i'nnit?
SECOND: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, like when we was on the building site. Remember Alf?
FIRST: What, Alfred Shipford?
SECOND: Yeah. You know, me and him used to have it off together on the scaffolding after work. You know. It was just mucking about, wa'nnit?
THIRD: Yeah, I mean, we all did that with Alf.
FIRST: But we were picking up birds while we were doing it.
THIRD: Hey, I'll tell you what I done, just for a laugh. I picked this bloke up, in a pub. We was both pissed.
FIRST: Oh, I've done that. You know, for a lark.
SECOND: What pub was that in?
THIRD: The Leather Cap 'n' Tash.
SECOND: Yeah, the one with the drag queens?
FIRST: Oh, yeah. Well, who hasn't gone down there on a Thursday, stripped naked, chained themselves up in the back room and gone, "Come on, big boys, I'll take the lot of ya!"
SECOND: That's just for a laugh, i'nnit? You know, it's like me. I've been with Stan for thirty years, living as man and wife.
THIRD: You what?
SECOND: Well, for a laugh.
FIRST AND THIRD: (together) Right. Yeah. Oh, right.
THIRD: Thought you was a poofter, for a minute.
SECOND: You want a smack in the mouth?
FIRST: Check out the new barmaid, eh?
(All three leer, bark approvingly.)
SECOND: Hey, uh, seen that Lovethorne bloke's dead?
THIRD: Yeah. Well he had it coming.
FIRST: Yeah, it's disgusting what they get up to.
SECOND: I mean, how can you do that with another bloke? You know, I mean, it's not like when you were seventeen and larking about, like, you know?
THIRD: Oh, yeah, yeah, you mean play about with each other in the showers after football? I mean, well, everybody does that!
FIRST: Yeah, well, that's just a laugh, i'nnit?
SECOND: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, like when we was on the building site. Remember Alf?
FIRST: What, Alfred Shipford?
SECOND: Yeah. You know, me and him used to have it off together on the scaffolding after work. You know. It was just mucking about, wa'nnit?
THIRD: Yeah, I mean, we all did that with Alf.
FIRST: But we were picking up birds while we were doing it.
THIRD: Hey, I'll tell you what I done, just for a laugh. I picked this bloke up, in a pub. We was both pissed.
FIRST: Oh, I've done that. You know, for a lark.
SECOND: What pub was that in?
THIRD: The Leather Cap 'n' Tash.
SECOND: Yeah, the one with the drag queens?
FIRST: Oh, yeah. Well, who hasn't gone down there on a Thursday, stripped naked, chained themselves up in the back room and gone, "Come on, big boys, I'll take the lot of ya!"
SECOND: That's just for a laugh, i'nnit? You know, it's like me. I've been with Stan for thirty years, living as man and wife.
THIRD: You what?
SECOND: Well, for a laugh.
FIRST AND THIRD: (together) Right. Yeah. Oh, right.
THIRD: Thought you was a poofter, for a minute.
SECOND: You want a smack in the mouth?
(Steel)
Steel, Mark. "Sexuality". The Mark Steel Solution. British Broadcasting Corporation. London, BBC Radio 4. August 4, 1995.
