Holocaust ... and other forms of Denial

[Michael]

All of this is nonsense ....
Denial - it's not just a river in Egypt.

Actually, you are in denial. How do we know?

Well, for one, you provide zero good evidence to back up your claims of White Racism.

Secondly, you use vague language to qualify your asinine statements: for example, by prefacing your claims of modern day differences in income by suggesting 'White Racism' is the cause, oh, that and there's 'some effect' of colonial Slavery nearly 200 years ago. Of course, there is 'some effect', for example, Black Americans life longer and more healthier than Black Africans. But, no, you don't want to stress THAT point. Nor acknowledge Slavery was ended by White People, killing a lot of other White People, in less than a single life-time in the USA.

Thirdly, you deny evidence that IQ is mostly genetic (possibly as high as 85%), which explains why E. Asians have high IQ, and also correlates with their above average incomes in the USA, as well as in Malaysia - where they are literally legally discriminated against. LEGALLY discriminated against, yet they have a higher IQ on average, and make more money accordingly. No virtue of their own - just biological luck. Incidentally, E. Asians have other biological differences, lower testosterone levels compared with "White" people and larger brain volume too. Dry ear wax. Etc...

Finally, you resort to name calling, exemplified by you referring to an interview from a 1980's Thomas Sowell's as 'wing-nut'. Sorry, but unlike anything you have posted, Thomas Sowell has decades worth of research on this very topic - and who's data has stood the scrutiny of time. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University, but hey - what would that dumb-arse know right? Oh, and he's a Black People by the bye.

In short, you like The Narrative of White Racists holding down the 'minorities' (except the high IQ Jews and Yellows). Why? Obviously it's emotional to you. Probably a part of your Socialistic world view where 'the rich white man' is blah blah blah. Virtue Signalling is also nice too. You know, to other Whites and the poor minorities that Progressives like to treat at their pets.

Well, in reality, White People are comparably the least racist, most socially tolerant people (statistically) by so-called 'race', and have created some of the most equitable societies (so much so they're probably going to implode from idiotic experiments with socialism - again), not to mention have brought about the post-modern age (of course, Europe has a history of advanced society - see Greece and Rome). European culture has been the pinnacle of human culture numerous times in history.

Not today, but many times across history. Europeans have much to be proud of, and little to be ashamed of.

"White People", most certainly are not the reason why there is disparate economic outcomes of different groups - all one has to do is normalize to IQ, and differences in race and culture melt away; then it becomes quite clear as to why groups of people (of any complexion) earn more than others. Of course, not good for the racists, but perfectly fine for Scientists (and people happy to move past your archaic notions of 'race').

 

[Michael]

Hey, here comes some denial now, via the DC: Former US Attorney: Susan Rice Ordered Spy Agencies To Produce ‘Detailed Spreadsheets’ Involving Trump

Former President Barack Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice ordered U.S. spy agencies to produce “detailed spreadsheets” of legal phone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides when he was running for president, according to former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova.

“What was produced by the intelligence community at the request of Ms. Rice were detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates in perfectly legal conversations with individuals,” diGenova told The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group Monday.

“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates, or anyone they were speaking with,” diGenova said. “In short, the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”

Other official sources with direct knowledge and who requested anonymity confirmed to TheDCNF diGenova’s description of surveillance reports Rice ordered one year before the 2016 presidential election.

Also on Monday, Fox News and Bloomberg News, citing multiple sources reported that Rice had requested the intelligence information that was produced in a highly organized operation. Fox said the unmasked names of Trump aides were given to officials at the National Security Council (NSC), the Department of Defense, James Clapper, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, and John Brennan, Obama’s CIA Director.
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Some people suggest this is a federal crime? Gee, imagine if a Political Master went to prison? My GAWDS we can't have that now. Can we?

 

[iceaura]

Thirdly, you deny evidence that IQ is mostly genetic (possibly as high as 85%),

No, I don't. I accept all of it, and comment one it frequently. As you have read, several times, I even provide as examples for your education other such features, so you can learn how such inheritance works - human height, for example, is even more strongly inherited (in most estimates) than IQ scores. It is also much more reliably measured.

Well, for one, you provide zero good evidence to back up your claims of White Racism.

That's true. I only discuss your denial of it, which bears significant similarity to the common Holocaust denial.

Secondly, you use vague language to qualify your asinine statements: for example, by prefacing your claims of modern day differences in income by suggesting 'White Racism' is the cause, oh, that and there's 'some effect' of colonial Slavery nearly 200 years ago.

Modern day racial differences in income are not my claims, but simple observations that you post as well. And I make no claims of "the cause" of anything. I point to your denial of the effects of white racism on black people in the US, and I point to the various obvious problems with your proposed explanations for these effects, things you post to excuse or justify or conceal your denial.

Well, in reality, White People are comparably the least racist, most socially tolerant people (statistically) by so-called 'race', - - -
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Not today, but many times across history. Europeans have much to be proud of, and little to be ashamed of.

So? The Holocaust happened anyway, the anti-Semitism involved is still around - and part of the common denial of that Holocaust. So did racial plantation slavery and its continuing legacy of white racism in the US, lasting and very significant in its effects to this day, including the racial bigotry behind the common denial .

Why are you denying that?

Finally, you resort to name calling, exemplified by you referring to an interview from a 1980's Thomas Sowell's as 'wing-nut'.

Your videos are never evidence, and they are wingnut because you post them. I don't watch them any more - they take too much time, and always in the past there was something in them that flatly contradicted your claims ( you have a kind of a genius for selecting direct debunkings of your own claims as evidence for them). I don't need the help, here - you are denying white racism and its effects on black people in the US. The existence of it. I just keep that front and center, and I'm good to go.

Where are we going? To your incessant bs attacks on the political opposition to the Republican Party and Donald Trump, who lost the popular vote in the Union overall but won it in the Confederacy. The Confederacy which has become a Republican political stronghold, since 1964. For some reason.

 

[Michael]

That's true. I only discuss your denial of it, which bears significant similarity to the common Holocaust denial.

Actually no, unlike your claim, there's ample evidence of the Holocaust having happened. Further, the Holocaust is a historical event, the claims that White Racism is 'having an effect on Jews' would be the analogy. No one denies that White and Black Slavery was legal for about 90 years in the USA.

Note the weasel words 'effect' instead of 'significant effect'.

It is interesting that the numbers of non-Jews were so inflated - yet, barely made a peep on the MSM (which has a different Narrative to tell). Kind of says something about how long a lie can endure because good people are unwilling or unable to take a stand for the truth and instead hide away or virtue signal a lie when socially convenient. Like the lie of White Racism in the USA. When in fact, White people have been shown to be the most accepting of other people and cultures than ANY other group of people.

 

[iceaura]

Actually no, unlike your claim, there's ample evidence of the Holocaust having happened.

It's denied, by the Holocaust denier. Just as you deny the ample evidence of white racism and its effects on black people in the US.

Note the weasel words 'effect' instead of 'significant effect'.

You deny them all, without bothering about their significance. That may be because as soon as you start arguing about levels of significance, your entire IQ issue loses its footing.

Like the lie of White Racism in the USA. When in fact, White people have been shown to be the most accepting of other people and cultures than ANY other group of people.

Which didn't help the Jews in WWII Poland, and didn't help the blacks in 19th and 20th century America.

I know you aren't the brightest bulb on the tree, but even you can surely see that it doesn't make any difference who is more racist than whom - the existence of white racism and its effects on black people in the US remains unaffected by the comparative virtues of white people. It's historical fact and current reality, as it is, even if everybody else on the planet is worse.

 

[Michael]

Just as you deny the ample evidence of white racism and its effects on black people in the US.

LOL
Oh, now you have 'ample' evidence, do you? Feel free to post a link to the peer-reviewed article.

Note again: using weasel words 'its effect'; which is so vague as to be meaningless, instead of listing a specific 'significant effect' that was measured and analyzed.

 

[wellwisher]

In America, during slavery, only about 1% of the white people could afford to own slaves. Yet the 99% is blamed for the 1% just because they are white. My grandparents were poor people from Eastern Europe, who migrated to the US around WWi. They were peasants who were a notch above slaves, yet they get blame for the 1%, simply by being white. This is not rational, but appears to be an artifact of a used car sales pitch and shakedown scam.

Although Jews were the primary victims of the Nazi's evil, many other groups were targetted based on both racial and political grounds. Other groups singled out by the Nazis included LGBTQ individuals, the physically and mentally disabled, Roma (gypsies), Poles and other Slavic peoples, Jehova's Witnesses, and members of political opposition groups. However tragic, these non-Jewish victims are typically not considered victims of the Holocaust. According to the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial Museum in Jerusalem, “By the 1950s, the English term Holocaust came to be employed as the term for the murder of the Jews in Europe by the Nazis. Although the term is sometimes used with reference to the murder of other groups by the Nazis, strictly speaking, those groups do not belong under the heading of the Holocaust, nor are they included in the generally accepted statistic of six million victims of the Holocaust.”

The holocaust is a term reserved for one group, even though others, not of a select group, were also victims of the exact same horrors in the same concentration camps. It is a type of selective generalization designed to allow one group to get more credit that it deserves, as the expanse of others who were/are also victimized. The 99% white who are blamed for slavery, who never owned slaves, are being victimized in a shake down scam. The others who suffered the same horrors as the Jews, are ripped off for their victim status, since they get less for the same troubles. This is part of the denial connected to the Holocaust.

 

[Michael]

RE: Holocaust denial
While I'm sure there are people who deny the holocaust occurred, these people would be in such a minority as to be statistically insignificant. The problem would be labeling Historial Revisionists, who do actual analysis, with the term Denialist because it upsets The Narrative.

From the linked article:

In the wake of the controversy, the world’s two leading Holocaust museums, in Washington and in Jerusalem, issued statements emphasizing the centrality of the annihilation of the Jews to the understanding of the Holocaust; neither mentioned Trump. The “5 million” has driven Holocaust historians to distraction ever since Wiesenthal started to peddle it in the 1970s. Wiesenthal told the Washington Post in 1979, “I have sought with Jewish leaders not to talk about 6 million Jewish dead, but rather about 11 million civilians dead, including 6 million Jews.”

Yehuda Bauer, an Israeli Holocaust scholar who chairs the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, said he warned his friend Wiesenthal, who died in 2005, about spreading the false notion that the Holocaust claimed 11 million victims – 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews. “I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’” Bauer recalled in an interview Tuesday. “He said, ‘Sometimes you need to do that to get the results for things you think are essential.’”​

No doubt some people believe lying about, and exaggerating the 'effects' of White Racism is a great idea. Getting elected for example. Or shaming White AND Black People into compliance. In reality, White People are the LEAST racist and the MOST accepting of different cultures - and even prefer a level of diversity in society so long as social norms are generally adhered too (which are very very VERY slack comparably).

The differences in human culture and economic prosperity can be correlated to IQ. Once IQ is normalized, then the data become clear as to why some societies are the way they are. Some humans are born with brains that are built and function differently. It's that simple. And IQ tests can be nonverbal and IQ can be measured objectively, even MRI and genetic tests can predict IQ with some accuracy. Nothing biological is the same across all human populations, ex: body strength, etc.... etc.... etc.... The data show that humans born with IQs of 85 are more likely to commit a crime without thinking through the consequences. Further, they are less likely to compete in our progressive everything-under-the-sun-is-regulated socialist paradise and are therefore more likely to drop out of school and turn to welfare, the east out progressive socialists provides to people, which further reduces incentives to stay and stick it out. Not to mention, Government schools, another progressive idea, are next to useless (maybe not so much in 1890, but by 1990 yes, they're useless).

Once data is normalized for IQ, then differences in societies become clear. Of course, having a high IQ society isn't going to overcome the price mechanism, that requires sound money, but it certainly will propel a free society that uses sound money and has common law. Add to this peaceful parenting, and really, there's no reason not to progress, real progression, to a post-work society. Which, I believe, will happen in Asia sometime this century.

 

[iceaura]

Oh, now you have 'ample' evidence, do you? Feel free to post a link to the peer-reviewed article.

You publicly assert that you require a large body of peer reviewed research to demonstrate to you, against your a priori presumption and in accordance with your ability to evaluate evidence, that white racism exists;

and to recognize its effects on black people in the US. Any of them.

Meanwhile, you are denying white racism and its effects on black people in America. That's your "null hypothesis". Agreed?

The differences in human culture and economic prosperity can be correlated to IQ.
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Once data is normalized for IQ, then differences in societies become clear.

As with height. A common error, this "normalization" of yours. Study up, figure it out, it ain't rocket science.

btw: remember Komlos (linked to you several times now) has established that income inequality itself - independent of absolute levels or prosperity overall - correlates with height. So that's yet another fairly obvious factor you haven't handled in your IQ guesswork.

Add to this peaceful parenting, and really, there's no reason not to progress, real progression, to a post-work society. Which, I believe, will happen in Asia sometime this century.

Not peacefully.
I'll take that bet at any odds.
Unless you regard the plantation society of the antebellum South in America as a "post-work society". In which case I could see that - although the Middle Eastern dominants have nearly beaten them to it, with robotic domestic servants the last step. https://phys.org/news/2017-02-passenger-carrying-drone-dubai.html

btw: Asians don't peacefully parent, in general. They use fiat currency for the exchanges involved in modern industrial economic growth, as everyone must. Most strictly limit private ownership of land, mineral and other resources, and water. They emphasize compulsory attendance at government-run schools. They are deeply racist. And so forth.

All of which gives you an out, when the rightwing authoritarian miracle you and your fellow "libertarian" hobgoblins promote and work for and expect actually shows up, and you get look at it. All you have to do is deny what you were doing and saying - no problem.

 

[Michael]

Rasmussen Reports
National Survey of 1,000 Adults
Conducted July 1-2, 2013

Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way.​

--o--
Even Black Americans don't agree with you, less than 25% consider White Americans racist, while they think 1 in 3 Black Americans are. But hey, what would THEY know, right?

LOL

 

[Michael]

You publicly assert that you require a large body of peer reviewed research to demonstrate to you, against your a priori presumption and in accordance with your ability to evaluate evidence, that white racism exists;

Doens't matter what "I" do, or even if "I" exist. You made a claim that White Racism 'is effecting' (weasle words) Black Americans (presumably negatively, though in the case of Yellow Americans, it seems to play a positive role), thus, because YOU are making the clam, then YOU provide the data.

Here, let's use a couple simple examples:
Person A claims drug B cures cancer. Person A makes the claim, therefore, person A produces the good evidence. Until Person B sees the evidence, there is nothing to 'deny', as thus far, Person A is talking out their arse. As a matter of fact, the claim may be true? Or it may be complete shit. Of course, when you have an EXTRAORDINARY claim, you need to provide very good evidence.

You have no good evidence. Isn't that interesting.

Person A claims Lizard People are 'affecting' Black People. Person A makes a claim, therefore, person A produces the good evidence.

Pretty simple.

 

[Michael]

You publicly assert

Can be public or private, doesn't affect the truth-value.

that you require a large body of peer reviewed research to demonstrate to you, against your a priori presumption

Wrong. My position is a posteriori and is ALWAYS assumed there is no effect until shown otherwise. This is true for ALL of science. We don't assume Drug A has an effect until shown otherwise. We assume Drug A does NOT have an effect until shown otherwise.

and in accordance with your ability to evaluate evidence, that white racism exists;

I've yet to see a study, and so there is nothing to evaluate. But sure, of course, ALL GOOD SCIENTISTS are SKEPTICAL. This is called "Science".

LOL

and to recognize its effects on black people in the US. Any of them.

Meaningless weasle words. Hell, we don't even know if you mean to say positive effects or negative effects.

Meanwhile, you are denying white racism and its effects on black people in America. That's your "null hypothesis". Agreed?

The null states there is no effect.

It has nothing to do with my, your, or anyone's prerogative. That IS the null, by definition.

btw: remember Komlos (linked to you several times now) has established that income inequality itself - independent of absolute levels or prosperity overall - correlates with height.

Height is mostly determined by genetics. I've already linked the article.

Not peacefully.

Actually, this would be an interesting study. Yes, it is true that the last generation of Asians, and many prior, were 'raised' using corporal punishment. Which is probably why they had Authoritarian GiverMints and supported asinine ideas of socialism (See: Communism, the Socialists wet-dream). But, interestingly, this is changing. In a virtuous cycle: now that socialism has run its course, society was too poor to enforce it, society by necessity become freer, a freer society becomes more wealthy, a wealthy society fulfills many of Maslow's hierarchy of needs and becomes more empathic, empathic society is more peacefull.

Here's the tricky part.

A peaceful society becomes more feminine. Feminine society without a State will work towards ensuring continued prosperity and thus security through private organizations, but, if the State can fulfill the security needs, then this option will be chosen, which always happens because it's easier, society will become more socialistic (immoral), undermining private (moral) organization and become poor again, more stress, more aggressive and more masculine.

Of course, as Twain suggested, it's more of a rhyme. Currently, modern societies are importing tax-chattel by the millions, in order to make up the tax base needed to pay for all the free-shit the feminine society wanted to placate itself with an illusionary sense of security. The idea of replacing your own population is highly usuall. But hey, Socialism works in mysterious ways. Though, always reaches the same conclusion.

btw: Asians don't peacefully parent, in general. They use fiat currency for the exchanges involved in modern industrial economic growth, as everyone must. Most strictly limit private ownership of land, mineral and other resources, and water. They emphasize compulsory attendance at government-run schools. They are deeply racist. And so forth.

All of which gives you an out, when the rightwing authoritarian miracle you and your fellow "libertarian" hobgoblins promote and work for and expect actually shows up, and you get look at it. All you have to do is deny what you were doing and saying - no problem.

Depends on the Asian.
1. Yes, all use fiat currency, though this may collapse in time as it's antiquated means of accounting.
2. Private ownership is the same as in the USA, the State ultimately owns everything. Yes, welcome to the Nation State where you are no longer the King of your castle. This will probably remain so long as there are nation-states. Will they last forever? I doubt it. Forever is a long time.
3. Yes, resources and water are the same as property, ultimately the property of the State.
4. Yes, for now, Government Schools are compulsory in most Asian societies, though Japan as a thriving private school network, including Montessori.
5. Yes, they make the same mistake regarding race. In time 'race', as a concept, will be replaced by an individual's genetic code and the implications of that code will be more important. "Race" is simply a heuristic, and a crude one at best. A defunct concept, that should give way to objective measurments at the indivual level.


Government is a rock chained the ankel of man, in the current era, for modern Nation States. In other times, it was City States, or Empires. Today, sure, it's Nation States. But, here's the thing, we will drag government with us, kicking and screaming, forward towards a more proerpous future. We will develop much better and moral means of facilitating the functions of Government. This will happen quicker, if we were to begin closing down and eliminating Governmetal agencies and replacing them with insurance companies and competing service providers. All of which will happen in time. One day, there won't be government. Wouldn't that be nice?

 

[iceaura]

Can be public or private, doesn't affect the truth-value.

Does establish the blatancy of the denial.

Wrong. My position is a posteriori and is ALWAYS assumed there is no effect until shown otherwise.

After being shown otherwise, in the case of white racism - to make room for before being shown, in the case of your pet IQ speculations.

The null states there is no effect.

The null does not state that observed realities do not exist.

I've yet to see a study, and so there is nothing to evaluate.

Now you're denying studies, as well as all other observation including historical record.

Height is mostly determined by genetics. I've already linked the article.

And so your entire IQ argument falls apart. All your genetic population IQ evidence is the same stuff as the genetic population height evidence, before Komlos et al did the research.

The question becomes why: Why these denials? Why do people deny the Holocaust, American racism, capitalist economic organization, stuff that's right in front of their faces?

 

[iceaura]

Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way.

So?

Even Black Americans don't agree with you, less than 25% consider White Americans racist, while they think 1 in 3 Black Americans are. But hey, what would THEY know, right?

Why would I disagree with them, or them with me? Those numbers sound reasonable to me, especially given Rasmussen's well-known bias.

btw: You misread even Rasmussen's statistics, right in front of you. What the rightwing propaganda firm Rasmussen supposedly found (the least reliable major polling operation I know of) is that 25% of blacks think most whites are racist. What the other 75% think about the rest of the whites is left unreported, although we read that only a small minority think race relations are good - so apparently most have noticed the effects of white racism.

And we know that things have deteriorated since 2013 - that was during Obama's presidency.

But that's all by the way: the main issue is that all of that - your entire post - is irrelevant to my posting here. Yet you post it as if there were some kind of conflict between that stuff and my posting.

And then you repeat your denial of white racism and its effects on black people in the US:

Of course, when you have an EXTRAORDINARY claim, you need to provide very good evidence.
You have no good evidence. Isn't that interesting.
Person A claims Lizard People are 'affecting' Black People. Person A makes a claim, therefore, person A produces the good evidence.

You assert that the existence of white racism, and white racists, and the effects therefrom in the US, is an extraordinary claim.

85% of Trump voters think there is a good chance that Obama was one or more of the following: a secret Muslim; born in Kenya; unintelligent and unable to speak without a teleprompter. The entire Confederacy has become a reliable voting bloc for white racist Republican candidates. Black people who smoke weed are four to eight times as likely as whites who smoke weed to be arrested and jailed for smoking weed. Hello?

 

[Michael]

And then you repeat your denial of white racism and its effects on black people in the US

Are you insane?
No one denied there's people in the USA who are racist (you yourself for example). What was stated was that whatever 'effects' there are, they are not significant. As evidenced by the fact that Yellow People and White Jews (also, weirdly enough, considered a 'race' by some 'racists') out-perform White People economically and academically. Further, evidence suggests that it is inherent IQ that determines economic and academic performance. Further still, Progressive Socialism, in the form of State regulatory capture, rewards high IQ (with rent-seeker status), while it punishes low IQ people (generational welfare ghetto status).

Simple enough?


The solution? End the Federal Reserve and with it, the Progressive Welfare State. Once regulatory agencies are closed, and regulatory capture ended by eliminating State licencing, then the poor, you pretend to care about, will have the ability to out compete high IQ people - which they WILL do. Why? Because they will work at a lower wage, they have meager lifestyles and can undercut over-paid high IQ (whom are only making the spoils they are, thanks to rent-seeker status). See, most jobs do not require an IQ of 125 to perform.

Just think, with sound money, they'll even be able to make enough to live on. And, won't that be nice.


You don't really care about the poor do you? What you do care about is 'The Rich' (of which, by world standards, YOU are one). That's the difference, I don't care about the rich

 

[iceaura]

No one denied there's people in the USA who are racist (you yourself for example). What was stated was that whatever 'effects' there are, they are not significant.

That's what we're talking about, yep. You are denying white racism and its effects on black people in the US.

As evidenced by the fact that Yellow People and White Jews (also, weirdly enough, considered a 'race' by some 'racists') out-perform White People economically and academically.

That's irrelevant.

Further, evidence suggests that it is inherent IQ that determines economic and academic performance.

That's irrelevant when comparing individuals, and false when comparing populations, especially US "races". (There is no established "inherent IQ" of such populations).

Simple enough?

Sure. You are scrabbling around trying to find some kind of pseudo-scientific justification for denying white racism and its effects on black people in the US. Holocaust deniers do the same. Climate change deniers. It's a common pattern.

 

[Michael]

You are denying white racism and its effects on black people in the US.

LOL, you've yet to define what you even mean by "effect".

LOL too funny.

Further, other than your weasel words, you've yet to provide any good evidence to back up your claim. You are a Classic example a sophist. Your line of reasoning was good for one thing, it inspired Aristotle to invent categorical logic. Once the weasel words of sophistry are replaced with letters, the argument can be seen for what it is, and in your case, it's clear you are talking crap.

And, one more time, no one denies there's are racists in America - you, for example.

But get this, we actually do have good evidence which explains why SOME Blacks and SOME Whites are poor - they have low IQ and are forced, by the Progressive "Democratic" Socialistic State to live as rent-seekers. The policies YOU support, are why they are poor. And why they will remain poor.

That's irrelevant when comparing individuals, and false when comparing populations, especially US "races". (There is no established "inherent IQ" of such populations).

Populations are made of people. People have IQs. IQs are mostly genetic. Which is why E. Asians in polluted noisy Chinese cities score 100 on verbal reasoning and 110 on spatial reasoning, the same as E. Asians in the USA and England.

You can continue to deny the 'effect' of IQ, but unlike you, I've posted good evidence that IQ is mostly genetic. This data will continue and is continuing to come out each year - with higher precision, better accuracy until one day, the only deniers will be those few Social Marxists on the far Left. Further, it explains, quite clearly, the 'effects' you appear to claim is due to White Racism. In fact, it's due to genetics.

Anyway, once the Welfare State is ended, and regulatory agencies are closed, then regulatory capture will be eliminated allowing the poor, you pretend to care about (well, Black Poor, when you're virtue signalling), will finally have the ability to compete against higher IQ rent-seekers. Until then, they will remain poor. Why? Because they will work for a higher IQ rent-seekers. Which will be for a long time to come. Enjoy your virtue signalling.

 

[iceaura]

Populations are made of people. People have IQs. IQs are mostly genetic.
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You can continue to deny the 'effect' of IQ, but unlike you, I've posted good evidence that IQ is mostly genetic.

All that is also true of height.

Do take that community college class in genetics - or even just elementary stats. They don't allow posters to go back and fix things from long ago, but at least you would stop repeating this foolishness.

As a class project, and penance, calculate the direct statistical effect - not even counting the sociological and generational amplifications, never mind actually thinking, just calculate the initial simple one step first generation biological effect - of various lead exposure regimes in childhood on the average IQ of an adult population.

Which is why E. Asians in polluted noisy Chinese cities score 100 on verbal reasoning and 110 on spatial reasoning, the same as E. Asians in the USA and England.

White racism and its effects on black people in the US, remember?

Further, other than your weasel words, you've yet to provide any good evidence to back up your claim

My claim is that you are denying white racism and its effects on black people in the US. The evidence is in my quotes of your posting.

Other than some side comments on the more ridiculous holes in your justifications of that denial, I'm not interested in proving anything to you. That you are demanding evidence of white racism and its effects on black people in the US is some of what I'm pointing at.

 

[Michael]

All that is also true of height.

And boys are taller than girls (on average - as a population).
I promise, it's not that difficult, and once you attend your community college class, you'll also find out that boys and girls differ genetically.
*GAAASP*

My claim is that you are denying white racism and its effects on black people in the US. The evidence is in my quotes of your posting.

Oh, I know your claim.

Part A: Postulate a group, which you called 'Black People', without providing ANY means of objectively determining who is, or who is not, a 'Black People'.
Part B: Postulate that 'White Racism', this magical substance that oozes from 'White People' without defining 'White Racism', or showing how you objectively can determine who is 'White People'.
Part C: Repeat, ad nauseam 'its effects', without defining what you mean by 'effects', without giving any good evidence of an 'effect', as a matter of fact, without ever providing any evidence to back up any of your claims at all.

Essentially, you may as well as be a weasel-word bot spewing gibberish onto a forum.

That much, we agree to Which, brings us up to now: Classic sophism.
Simple, but, effective when used against Government Schooled functional illiterates who read at grade level 7 and probably think you're saying something of substance, when in fact, you're babbling nonsense.


In the meantime, we have very good evidence that IQ is mostly genetic, and that IQ also correlates strongly with behaviors, as well as economic performance. IQ robustly explains economic and academic performance across time and space, across culture, and when the theory is applied to a highly regulated progressive 'democratic' social paradise like the U.S.A. (see: A government ghetto for an example) we clearly see that it is a combination of genetics, and progressive socialism, that is disadvantaging PEOPLE (inclusive) of lower IQ who are locked out of markets via progressive socialistic regulatory capture and left to toil at the whims of the high IQ rent-seekers.

Let's hope our lovely progressive government starts defunding Government Universities, they're clearly as much a waste of money and resources as Government Schools. Charter Universities and competition are obviously the only viable solution.

 

[Michael]

I wonder, why is it, that there's a men's league and female's league..... in CHESS?

Oh, that's right, there appears to be *GAAAAAAAAASP* differences between the two genders whereby men are statistically more likely to have very high IQ (and dominate chess championships) as well as very low IQs, which is why more men are on the street and homeless.


Oh, wait, what am I thinking? Of course, it's magical White Racism having "effects" on the ability of women to play chess.

Of course. We should work on a quota system immediately as well as starting courses on equality of outcome for chess champions, freaken bigots.

Re: male homelessness
Where is the equality of outcome here?