Help needed identifying appletree.

[Enmos]

Any tree experts here ?

I found this leaf and decided to determine the species, but I'm kinda stuck.
I narrowed it down to genus (Malus, apple genus) and a probable species (Malus bracteata).

Any help would be much appreciated

 

[draqon]

well the color will not help...it autumn.
Crabapple?

 

[draqon]

And these are the choices:

Malus angustifolia - Southern Crab
Malus baccata - Siberian Crabapple
Malus bracteata
Malus brevipes
Malus coronaria - Sweet Crabapple
Malus sylvestris domestica - Orchard Apple
Malus florentina
Malus floribunda - Japanese Crabapple
Malus formosana
Malus fusca - Oregon Crabapple, Pacific Crabapple
Malus glabrata
Malus glaucescens
Malus halliana
Malus honanensis
Malus hupehensis - Chinese Crabapple
Malus ioensis - Prairie Crab
Malus kansuensis
Malus lancifolia
Malus prattii
Malus prunifolia
Malus pumila syn. Malus sylvestris sieversii - synonyms of Malus sieversii, Asian Wild Apple or Almaty apple
Malus rockii
Malus sargentii
Malus sieboldii
Malus sieversii - Asian Wild Apple
Malus sikkimensis
Malus spectabilis
Malus sublobata
Malus sylvestris - European Wild Apple
Malus toringoides
Malus transitoria
Malus trilobata
Malus tschonoskii
Malus yunnanensis

 

[Enmos]

well the color will not help...it autumn.
Crabapple?

Yea, it's a crabapple species, but which oh which.. lol
I believe I have seen most if not all species on the list but I will go through it later, thanks

 

[draqon]

This is Malus bracteata:

...hmmm...does it look like that leaf or not...hmmmm

 

[draqon]

I would say pretty close.

 

[draqon]

And you dont have a picture of the fruit?

 

[Enmos]

And you dont have a picture of the fruit?

There are several different images on the net, some of them being more of a match. I suspect these trees are cultivated so there is some variability to be expected. This doesn't make things easier though

I have seen the fruit but it's all the way up in the tree.
They are Rowan type and color berries and also configured in that way, only about 2x bigger.
The trunk is similar to Rowan as well as is the configuration of the leafs.
This is why I thought it was a Sorbus species at first but I can't find any matches.

Now that I think about it the configuration of the leaves in that pictured you posted isn't the same as the configuration of the leafs of the trees I saw.
Maybe it is a Sorbus species after all..
The leafs are about 2,5 inch long and the trees themselves were about 15 feet tall but I could be a copuple of feet off.
I better take some pictures of the trees and berries (if I can get my hands on them) as well. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[Enmos]

Check this out:

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweedse_lijsterbes

This could be it, Sorbus intermedia The trunk is a bit off though..

 

[draqon]

yeah the leaves sure do resemble the picture you posted of.

 

[Enmos]

Thanks for trying to help Draqon
I'm pretty sure now that it's Sorbus sp., will have to look at some other species then S. intermedia to be sure though.