Health Care Bill Debate

joe thanks for the belly laugh, my sides are spliting, you do add comic relief to a sad situation, please continue with your talking points, and keep marching in lock step.

Got your balls in a wringer again, so here you go with insults and your next post will be a bunch of chaff. :) Jee, I wonder how I know that :)
 
What no chaff? Face it Buffalo Roam you have been brought to the light yet you refuse to see. So be it.
 
So as for the OP: It isn't "grass roots", it isn't fury, and it has little or nothing to do with Obama's actual health care plan.

Next.
 
So as for the OP: It isn't "grass roots", it isn't fury, and it has little or nothing to do with Obama's actual health care plan.

Next.

I think you're right. It wouldn't matter what the issue, as long as it's Obama's agenda. It's right out of the Turd Blossom handbook.
 
So as for the OP: It isn't "grass roots", it isn't fury, and it has little or nothing to do with Obama's actual health care plan.

But it doesn't matter what you think it is or is not. It's obviously happening ...all across the country. You can call them all idiots and fools and anything else you want, but that doesn't change what's happening and how people feel.

Baron Max
 
LOL, I think that says it all Repo Man!

No, not quite, Joe. His little cartoons forgot something quite important ....all of those people depicted are voters!

Call them names, slander them, consider them all idiots, etc., but at the end of the day, their vote counts exactly the same as yours. ...as guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States of America. Well, that is ....until Owowabama declares the Constitution invalid and burns it in the middle of the senate floor.

Baron Max
 
baron said:
But it doesn't matter what you think it is or is not. It's obviously happening ...all across the country. You can call them all idiots and fools and anything else you want, but that doesn't change what's happening and how people feel.
It describes what's happening now, and why people feel as they do.

Unless you see no difference between spontaneous popular objections to Obama's health care plan, and manipulations of a created mob to prevent sound governance of the rich and powerful.
 
But it doesn't matter what you think it is or is not. It's obviously happening ...all across the country. You can call them all idiots and fools and anything else you want, but that doesn't change what's happening and how people feel.

Baron Max

What's happening? They are hired goons of the Republican party. They don't seem to be genuinely curious about health care, they just want to stir up trouble and controversy. They read off talking points they don't even understand. We need intelligent debate at this critical time in history, not mob rule.
 
What's happening? They are hired goons of the Republican party. They don't seem to be genuinely curious about health care, they just want to stir up trouble and controversy. They read off talking points they don't even understand. We need intelligent debate at this critical time in history, not mob rule.

Do you have any proof of that assertion, Spider? Because according to the local news here, that doesn't seem to be the case. And it's not any different elsewhere.

However, let's say that you're right and that it's organized. Is that any different to how Owabamawa organized his side of the issue and is trying to push it through the congress so rapidly that no one has a chance to think about it?

Or is it illegal for Repubs to organize, but okay for Dems to organize??????

Baron Max
 
Obviously, they didn't push it through congress yet, although that would have been preferable to having the Republicans swiftboat the issue. Why can't the Republicans organize in a constructive way? Make no mistake, this isn't a call for intelligent debate, but an attempt to sabotage public health care on behalf of corporate interests. I bet most of those "protestors" are on medicare!
 
How about a debate of the genuine issues? Oh, that's far too much trouble. It's much easier to start shouting about "Socialized medicine". Why is the idea of a single payer system being repeatedly mentioned by these protesters, since it isn't even an option under consideration? Why should I take them seriously, when they are attacking a straw man, and refusing to listen to those who could correct their misconceptions? Why do they instead choose to shout them down with accusations of conspiracy theories, and ridiculous notions of being forced into socialism?

If you are asking a genuine question, you most likely want to hear the answer.
 
Baron Max, your delibrate distortion of Obama's name makes me think that a good portion of your dislike for the man is directly tied to his race...which is unfortunate.

As has been pointed out by other posters, this Republican rule by misinformed mob is not good for the republic...wittness the last eight years.
 
Exactly, it's sad. These people will need health care someday and then wonder why the hell they were working against their own self-interest!
 
baron said:
However, let's say that you're right and that it's organized. Is that any different to how Owabamawa organized his side of the issue and is trying to push it through the congress so rapidly that no one has a chance to think about it?
Sending a bunch of thugs to threaten and shout at their Congressman during town meetings, to the point that said Congressmen are hung in effigy and need police escort to walk to their cars, is not how Obama "organized his side of the issue" - to mention one aspect of this.

If some Republican Congressmen have not thought about this issue, fifty years and more after its introduction and seventeen years after the Republicans last trashed a reform attempt (that would have saved the US hundreds of billions of dollars by now, including possible the automobile industry), then that's just too bad. Time to grow up, get busy, and take on the tasks appropriate to their office in some responsible manner.
 
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