Its only lines on a map to him.
Half of Jews don't want to live near Arabs
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Its only lines on a map to him.
The Palestinians might be willing to accept the original partition now.
The only reason the Native Americans accepted their unjust situation was because the alternative was them being genocided. With genocide off the table how do you pacify the Palestinians?
They should just fuck off with their "original partition".
You were offered a job, and responded by punching the guy who offered it to you because he didn't offer you the better position for the better pay. He, in return, kicked the shit out of you and threw you out of his office. And you think you're being gracious by offering him to take his original offer?
Newsflash: the winner of a conflict gets to decide. Especially if that winner was attacked. The "Palestinians" lost any right to any legal claim they may have had in 1947 (which only became legal because the UN has decided THAT was the partition, only at that particular point in time). Let their genocide wishing bretheren who have helped making them homeless take care of them now.
The gull of these fucking arrogant tyrants... to demand that Israel take responsibility for getting attacked, and winning, six times!
And every single time these genociding pricks made another try, the "Palestinians" ended up in a deeper shit hole. YET ISRAEL IS RESPONSIBLE! Wow... that camel shit must be very high in hallucinogenic content!
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Very well said.
no it wasn't it was completely biased and ignores the fact both sides have to take responsibilty that they both have to work for peace and they both are to blame for the continued conflict
You moral relativist doytchbags are living in a dream land
I know... Jews begging to have a peaceful relationship with its primitive savage genociding neighbours + the [could have been created] new state of Palestine
EQUALS
the genociding savages attacking those Jews and trying to finish the job that their buddy in Europe almost finished merely 3 years prior.
How could I have missed the parallels? Clearly the blame should be shared...
You moral relativist doytchbags are living in a dream land
what the palestians do bear more of the burden for continued violence but to say the israelis carry no portion of the claim for the continued conflict is just ignoring reality. i am not living in a dream world. i am living in the real grey world.
You moral relativist doytchbags are living in a dream land
I know... Jews begging to have a peaceful relationship with its primitive savage genociding neighbours + the [could have been created] new state of Palestine
EQUALS
the genociding savages attacking those Jews and trying to finish the job that their buddy in Europe almost finished merely 3 years prior.
How could I have missed the parallels? Clearly the blame should be shared...
the arabs in the mid east fought for the allies on the promise of gaining there independent states. so how does that mean the were fighting for the axis?
So now you're talking about the recent ongoing conflict. With that I might agree with you. Sharon should not have provoked those jihadi savages. And also, the IDF should have had a much better spokespeople unit to handle all the idiot international press that are not used to being stonewalled.
See, I was responding to your comment about what happened in 1947/8, not in the last 10 years.
i always refered to it in the sense of the continued conflict although there was some really screwed up shit during the war. there were both arab and jewish groups that supported or felt that voctory from one side or the other was the best way to get what they wanted.
You hate - and I quote - "the Jews". That's not a nationality. It isn't technically a race, either, but that subtlety seems to have been lost in the terms of reference.kadark said:
Most of the Jews I know don't actually approve of even the creation of Israel, let alone its behavior - (although I get the vibe that they are sort of proud of its kick-ass military). There are plenty of Jews like Jacobo Timmerman and Noam Chomsky, both of whom have pointed out that the Zionists seem to have taken lessons from the Reichstadt theory of political governance in their own treatment of the Palestinians.
Last I heard, genetic studies had thrown some doubt into that.kadark said:
The history of the development of the enmity would be interesting. Aside from a lot of the Arabs having sided with the Nazis, I don't have any idea how the personal hatreds got started - it's not fair to simply assume the Jews brought it with them. Paranoia, maybe.SAM said:
To continue with that extraordinary metaphor: the guy moved into your job and office at gunpoint, offered you a job cleaning it, and kicked the shit out of you when you tried to take your office back. And the deal you are willing to settle for was for the cleaning job, which in the interim he has given to his nephew. Along with your car, which he "found" in the parking lot. Then he built a wall around your house, and you have to have papers to get past ckeckpoints to go to the grocery store.otheadp said:
Wrong analogy. You own a house. You are forced to pay "protection money to Mafia Boss Turk. Boss Brit tells him, help me fight Boss Turk and you won't have to pay "protection money" anymore. You hold Boss Turk's foot while Boss Brit kicks the crap out of Boss Turk. Mafia Boss Brit says you will be paying your "protection money to me now".
Some foreign guy shows up and says that your house is on his land. The foreign guy is making no sense. Boss Brit says we can resolve this. We will let my dog decide who's house it is. UN the dog goes sniffing about and then pees in the middle of the living room floor. Boss Brit says, my dog has spoken. Where my dog peed will divide your house. You get the side of your house to the left of where my dog peed and foreign guy gets the other half of the house including the kitchen. As soon as Boss Brit turns his back you and foreign guy start fighting over the house. Foreign guy beats the crap out of you and locks you in the closet.
Every time you shout foreign guy opens the closet door and beats you some more.
Decades go by like this.
Now what?
Are you kidding me? The US unilaterally funds only the Israelis with sophiscated weaponry. How is the Israeli bulldozing and bombing of Palestinians an unsignificant factor in continuing the violence?
Yup, you sure are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphEplE6BzM
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See, my analogy reflects reality, and your analogy reflects make believe. You couldn't even follow it properly and got all the characters confused
Anyway, look, feel free to live in a make believe world. Whether you're in tune with reality or not is not really relevant. What's relevant is that you convince the people that are - i.e. Israelis and the population of the world that supports them and takes their analogy over yours - that they should unjustly give up their natural rights and throw away their security and country so that a genocide-loving make-believe "people" that was victimized by someone else could come in and take over their home.
Good luck with that
See, my analogy reflects reality, and your analogy reflects make believe. You couldn't even follow it properly and got all the characters confused
Anyway, look, feel free to live in a make believe world. Whether you're in tune with reality or not is not really relevant. What's relevant is that you convince the people that are - i.e. Israelis and the population of the world that supports them and takes their analogy over yours - that they should unjustly give up their natural rights and throw away their security and country so that a genocide-loving make-believe "people" that was victimized by someone else could come in and take over their home.
Good luck with that
Reality vs Make Believe
Tell me more about "reality" SAM
Sure:
Its not what the Israelis show you, its what they don't show you.
Unbiased Coverage - Part 1
Unbiased Coverage - Part 2
Unbiased Coverage - Part 3
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