I agree that the Israel/Palestinian situation is a threat to world peace, but I don't agree that the Israelis are solely to blame. I think the UN should be occupying Palestinian territories so Israel doesn't have to do it.
Half of Jews don't want to live near Arabs
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I agree, the UN should redefine the borders back to the 1948 ones and hold Israel to them. And they should provide an army for Palestine and also their administration until the problem is resolved.
However I predict this will not be accpeted by Israel. And that only a one state solution will survive in the long term.
The borders after the War of Independence were much larger than now! They gave much of that back. Do you mean '67? Two states are more realistic. Maybe some hundred of years in the future, they will tear down the wall, as with East and West Germany.
Are we talking about the same borders?
Two states will never work out as long as the US is pumping money into Israel. The equation is unbalanced and Israel will not allow the Palestinians to keep the state.
I might be mistaken, now that I think about it. Israel captured more land in 67, then returned it soon afterwards.
This thread is long; have Hiroshima and Nagasaki been dragged into it yet?
Does the last image show more land to you?
Those images don't represent every gain and return.
So what is the current map?
I'm sure you could find it. In any case, either the '67 borders or the original UN partition plan is acceptable to me, for whatever that's worth.
I just wondered how the situation had changed from 2000. I've only been following this stuff for a few years after I met a Palestinian and then got interested in the issue.
2004 I think.
Wouldnt it be better to take in a Palestinian family? Weve got to live in peace, not stoke the flames.
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The same thing could be said of the Arabs then? It seems that it's a case of winner take all. I mean, you're arguing it was Arab land and then you say well it was Egyptian land ...
The only solution is to draw up the lines as they are now and be done with it.
I agree. Now how exactly should the Jews be told/forced to go away from the land they have stolen? :bugeye:
Why? Because some nonsavages decided that Jews don't belong in Europe and Arabs are nobodies anyway so their opinion is unimportant?
No, I was simply using the fallacious argument of "Jews were there before Arabs!" against mikenostic. Should Egyptians regain control of Palestine because thousands of years ago, Ramses of Egypt during the Age of Empires had conquered it? No. Similarly, the Jews shouldn't have the land because of an ancient religious connection (I would say historical, but the majority cannot trace their roots to Palestine).
I think it makes more sense that the Palestinians, who had been living in that area for 2,000 consecutive years, have the highest right to it today. Oh, and always remember that "Palestinian" is of any religion - including Jews.
That was a question of ethics.
Draw the lines as they are now? You have got to be crazy. That will only make matters worse.
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