Half of Jews don't want to live near Arabs

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Perhaps Israel should just classify the arabs as Dalits. Then they could do stuff like:

And no one would complain! No one complains about India's treatment of the Dalits, so why should Israel's treatment of them be any different? And surely an Indian couldn't complain.

But seriously, aren't the Dalits treated worse than the Palestinians already? Where do you (SAM) get off pointing a finger at Israel when this kind of abuse is going on in your own country?
Can we send them to the US? You could give them a Dalit State and 3 billion a year.
 
What? Don't they have a right to live in India? What religion are the Dalit? I don't think I'd be against letting a bunch of them in on humanitarian grounds. Especially if they already spoke English and agreed to not go on welfare.

I wonder if that's ever been used as a condition for immigration. Say anyone who agrees to sign away any right to going on welfare for themselves or their families automatically jumps to the front of the line.
 
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Do you have a link ? I didn't know that..

http://www.f-16.net/news_article1912.html

August 4, 2006 (by Lieven Dewitte) - Dutch F-16 jets saw action last week in Afghanistan's southern Helmand province in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.

Around 1,500 Dutch troops under the command of Brigadier-General Ton van Loon are in the region, 400 of them at Tarin Kowt and a further 100 at Deh Rawod.

The main body of troops - more than 900 men and women - are based at Kandahar airfield, while the eight F-16s are stationed in Kabul.

In a 10-day operation in mid-July, Dutch troops, fighting alongside US and other forces, took on insurgents in the Baluchi Valley not far from the Dutch base at Tarin Kowt, the capital of Uruzgan Province.

The Dutch claimed 18 Taliban killed without loss. The full firepower of the Dutch contingent was deployed so next to the F-16 fighters there were also Apache helicopters, armoured vehicles and groundtroops participating.

I suppose when they look down they can see the neon signs on the people that say "I AM TALIBAN"
 
That would explain why Palestinians don't want to live with Israelis, after all they came from Europe and Russia, took their land and now murder them on a daily basis for it. But the majority Israeli Arabs (who are of Palestinian origin and have much of their families under occupation) are willing to accept a Jewish state.

I'll just ignore this bit since it's pure nonsense :)

Is it true that there are distinct differences between the places where Arabs live and where the Jews live in Israel?

It's basically "birds of a feather". Except Jerusalem, and even then it's segregated. It's just that each prefers to live with his own kind. Arabs in Israel wouldn't like Jews living in their neighbourhood either, I imagine.

But it's not just along national lines. Druze live with Druze, Christian Arabs live sort of segregated within Christian quarters of an Arab town, then you've got the split along the economic line, etc.

But despite people prefer to live with their kind, there is a lot of interaction. Shopping, for example. I remember going with my parents to Nazareth to buy shoes from Arabs, and to Kfar Saba to buy vegetables from Arabs. And Kfar Saba is a "Jewish" city. So either the Arab shop keepers lived there, or they had their business there.

Tel Aviv (Jewish) is right near Yaffo (Arab). We travelled to Yaffo several times, and to the Druze towns too, to buy some other things.

So not only do people travel to each others' communities, they take their small children with them.

Also, in my (Jewish) town where I was working I had an Arab co-worker. A very nice guy. We never ever had even a hint of a problem re: the Israeli-Arab issue.
 
I'll just ignore this bit since it's pure nonsense :)



It's basically "birds of a feather". Except Jerusalem, and even then it's segregated. It's just that each prefers to live with his own kind. Arabs in Israel wouldn't like Jews living in their neighbourhood either, I imagine.

But it's not just along national lines. Druze live with Druze, Christian Arabs live sort of segregated within Christian quarters of an Arab town, then you've got the split along the economic line, etc.

But despite people prefer to live with their kind, there is a lot of interaction. Shopping, for example. I remember going with my parents to Nazareth to buy shoes from Arabs, and to Kfar Saba to buy vegetables from Arabs. And Kfar Saba is a "Jewish" city. So either the Arab shop keepers lived there, or they had their business there.

Tel Aviv (Jewish) is right near Yaffo (Arab). We travelled to Yaffo several times, and to the Druze towns too, to buy some other things.

So not only do people travel to each others' communities, they take their small children with them.

Also, in my (Jewish) town where I was working I had an Arab co-worker. A very nice guy. We never ever had even a hint of a problem re: the Israeli-Arab issue.

Maybe, but its not all happy glory is it? There is growing distruct between Arabs and Jews in Israel and teh Arab Israelis themselves are torn between loyalties. So with the poll in the OP saying that half the Jews don't want to live with Arabs, what happens next?
 
Yeah and that "country" was not given to them by the natives, who have a right to live there. Or are you saying that natives have no right to live on their land?

When that land is conquered (which it is by now), the natives do what the conquering people tell them to do.

There could've been a compromise, a most reasonable one with Jerusalem being an international city and Palestinians and Jews having two separate states, but Palestinians rejected that compromise and became an enemy. They are now in a worse situation than back then and they have only themselves to blame.

So is the entire Middle East and especially the Palestinains.

And?...

And the Jews who moved from Europe and Russia were definitely Europeans and Russians (which is a nationality not an ethnicity or a religion) unless they were denied legal status for 2000 years

They were never seen as part of the general population like everyone else, they were seen as Jews, Semites. That's the reason for those pogroms you keep citing like a dumb parrot.

Must be the same "books" you read.

I also read news. That'd help you too.

If you'd pay attention to the news, by the way, you'd know that majority of the population of your home city, Mumbai, was living in slums and using the city river as a toilet last year, and is probably still doing so.
 
When that land is conquered (which it is by now), the natives do what the conquering people tell them to do.

Like Russia and Latvia?
There could've been a compromise, a most reasonable one with Jerusalem being an international city and Palestinians and Jews having two separate states, but Palestinians rejected that compromise and became an enemy. They are now in a worse situation than back then and they have only themselves to blame.

Tell me again why the Palestinians take in Jews the Europeans don't want.



They were never seen as part of the general population like everyone else, they were seen as Jews, Semites. That's the reason for those pogroms you keep citing like a dumb parrot.

So its okay for the Europeans to kill Jews because they are not seen as a part of the population but Palestinians must accept immigrants who want to take their land?

Why not the Europeans give a state to the Jews they don't want?

I also read news. That'd help you too.

If you'd pay attention to the news, by the way, you'd know that majority of the population of your home city, Mumbai, was living in slums and using the city river as a toilet last year, and is probably still doing so.
Maybe they should move to where you are. Then you could make not like the Palestinians and embrace them with open arms, toilet and all.
 
Each poll is a frame in time. There are 24 frames in just 1 second of a movie, and the movie has 6000 seconds (about 100 minutes). That's 144,000 frames for one movie.

The real question is how the opinions have changed over time. I think things have gotten only better and better for Arabs in Israel ever since the creation of the state.

The first 20 years they lived under the IDF's constant supervision. Then that went away. I'm not gonna list all the progress, you can find it on Wiki... but it's been better and better every decade.

With all the anti-Israel incitement and irresponsible reporting going on in the world press in the past decade things probably look really bad from the outside. But it isn't. Well, maybe except the so-called leaders of the Arab community in Israel being the most irresponsible in decades.

One helped Hizballah during the 2006 war, another incited his followes for muder, another (or maybe it was the 1st one) kept travelling to enemy states... another urged his constituents to stop volunteering for the IDF...

It's a shame really. But overall it's not as bad as people outside of Israel think.
 
With all the anti-Israel incitement and irresponsible reporting going on in the world press in the past decade things probably look really bad from the outside. But it isn't. Well, maybe except the so-called leaders of the Arab community in Israel being the most irresponsible in decades.

One helped Hizballah during the 2006 war, another incited his followes for muder, another (or maybe it was the 1st one) kept travelling to enemy states... another urged his constituents to stop volunteering for the IDF...

It's a shame really. But overall it's not as bad as people outside of Israel think.

Thats good to hear. Why doesn't Israel just offer the Palestinians citizenship?
 
Maybe Thailand is too far?:confused:

OK - your question implies that Israel is somehow obligated to the "Palestinians". I mean, if you parse that statement you might find some obligations, but gifting them Israeli citizenship is certainly not one.
 
OK - your question implies that Israel is somehow obligated to the "Palestinians". I mean, if you parse that statement you might find some obligations, but gifting them Israeli citizenship is certainly not one.

I meant since they did displace them pursuant to an European holocaust. Ideally, the Palestinians should be living in their own country now, if not for the creation of a state for the Jews nobody wanted.
 
You are making a fool out of yourself, lol.

Like Russia and Latvia?

Yes, Russia conquered Latvia. Yes, Russia gave Latvia independence when asked nicely in 1990. Yes, Chechnya also asked for independence, but Russia decided not to give it to them. What else about the world don't you understand?

Tell me again why the Palestinians take in Jews the Europeans don't want.

The Palestinians didn't have land to give. The land was under British control and Britain gave it to Jews. Now Palestinians are losing the armed conflict. That's all. How many times will I have to repeat this until it sinks in? In other words, how slow are you?

Maybe they should move to where you are. Then you could make not like the Palestinians and embrace them with open arms, toilet and all.

What's the matter? You don't like those people?
 
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