Guiliani gets Pat Robertson endorsement.

[madanthonywayne]

"It is my pleasure to announce my support for America's Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, a proven leader who is not afraid of what lies ahead and who will cast a hopeful vision for all Americans,"​

Pat Robertson, during a news conference with Giuliani http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071108/D8SP5DFG0.html

It's not like Pat Robertson is a political powerhouse these days, but him endorsing Guiliani is a sign the Christian conservatives are closing ranks to avoid a second Clinton presidency.

For perspective, consider what a once prominent member had to say on the idea of Guiliani getting the Republican nomination.
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Giuliani alienates the base of his party. The party that gave us Very UN-Giuliani Reagan, the Bush Dynasties, Newt, and Cheney and the rightwing neocons. A candidate that supports abortion rights!? GAY marriage?! Are you serious? Republicans aren't moving to the left of center in case you hadn't noticed. They will put up a social conservative. Thinking Giuliani will get the GOP nod is like believing Lieberman will be nominated by the Dems! It just ain't happenin. Though I hope so!

Anything could happen, but a Guiliani nomination is looking more and more likely. And based on Hillary's recent performance at the last Democratic debate, I think he'd wipe the floor with her.

PS Genji and I have a bet that he'll read Atlas Shrugged should Guiliani get the Republican nomination. His communist brain may just explode when exposed to Ayn Rand.

 

[S.A.M.]

He's willing to change the US Constitution to making it anti-gay marriage. In present day America, that is all he needs. Isn't he the guy that also thought Cheney was a good soulmate as a veep?
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/02/giulianis-dream-vp-dick-cheney/

Apparently America wants to defeat Al Qaeda by becoming the Taliban. Yeehaw!

 

[Tiassa]

His communist brain may just explode when exposed to Ayn Rand.

That is a prerequisite for appreciating Rand, you know. Rand-heads° tend to be about as zealous and silly as born-again Christians.

It's not like Pat Robertson is a political powerhouse these days, but him endorsing Guiliani is a sign the Christian conservatives are closing ranks to avoid a second Clinton presidency.

Yeah. It must suck to be them. But that annoyance is superficial. The so-called "Christian right" isn't actually Christian. The only thing that really bugs them about it is the fact that they have to step out of character in order to try to win.

After all, they do have a viable candidate, if only they'd get behind him. It has been said that if only everyone who would vote for a certain candidate except for the perception that he can't win would actually vote for him, he'd win.

But they won't. I don't know why. The guy could put up at least a good fight, if not actually win, the general election.
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Notes:

° Rand-heads - I haven't figured out a good name for this particular faction of zealots. Personally, I like randumbizers, but for some strange reason, I just don't think that would go over well.

 

[ashura]

It's not like Pat Robertson is a political powerhouse these days, but him endorsing Guiliani is a sign the Christian conservatives are closing ranks to avoid a second Clinton presidency.

Heh, Hillary is the fucking antichrist to the Republicans. I'm sure whoever the Republican nominee is, he'll have the evangelical vote. What's surprising though is how splintered the evangelicals have been in regards to the primaries. A few Christians can't stand Giuliani and are furious that he got Robertson's endorsement. Other prominent ones have thrown their vote behind Romney, some behind Huckabee, a few behind Paul. I can't recall if Thompson got any. But it's startling that what was once called the base of Republican party can't even get unified behind one candidate at this point.

 

[Tiassa]

Over at Dry Fly Politics, some commentary on Robertson's endorsement:

... Robertson had a choice. He could support the one GOP candidate that furthest from his moral and political views or he could support the candidate who espouses his same views more than any other candidate but belongs to a religion he loathes, believes is a cult, and believes is a threat both spiritually and financially to him and his constituents.

He chose the former. He chose to risk losing all credibility and being pushed to the fringes of the “moral majority” wing of the American electorate, all for fear of legitimizing a religion different from his own. How disappointing.

(Dry Fly Politics)

Note: The author of that blog is a Romney supporter.

 

[Thoreau]

I don't see why Pat Robertson is soo accepted in today's society??? He is a racist, sexist, and homophobic religious nutcase. If you need proof, go back to my Hate Groups thread...

I know if I was running for president, i wouldn't want ANYTHING to do with that guy!

 

[Tiassa]

Jesus freakin' Christ!

I don't see why Pat Robertson is soo accepted in today's society???

Normally, I would say it's because he claims to be a Christian. But it turns out some who claim to be Christians are fighting back. I went looking to see just what his influence was--how many Christians are supporting him--and came across a Better Business Bureau Wise Giving Alliance report that lists the 2005 income of the 700 Club at $462,597,261. The same report highlights four standards for charity accountability that the 700 Club failed to meet between 2004 and 2006. The BBB considers its report valid until April, 2008.

I picked up this report at a website run by an alleged Christian:

God hates the 700 Club, because they're exploiting Christianity to make money (and lots of it). I was recently watching the 700 Club. I became angry and wanted to go vomit as I watched their marketing scam, and how they deceive so many people. What they do is show some poor child in a poor country, that they helped, and I'm sure they did. But how much of that $462,597,261 goes into their POCKETS? Why the refusal to disclose employee benefits, compensations, and salaries? I think the reason is very obvious. Why are people so dumb to give money to these shysters? It's because people don't do their homework, and become emotionally caught up in seeing poor children suffering. It's a tactic that many money-hungry "ministries" are using today. To no surprise, James Robison (Life for Today) also refuses to tell the BBB where the money is going.

The 700 Club shows its viewers a person who was at the brink of bankruptcy, but gave their last $20 to the 700 Club, and all of a sudden they received a $100,000 a year job, and bought a brand new big house, and oh life is so great now! What the 700 Club is doing is exact what 2nd Peter 2:3 warns against... "through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you..." The 700 Club appeals through COVETOUSNESS to the greed of it's listeners. In other words, give to get! Of course, they also show you photos of the new house you're going to get, and that wonderful job--all guaranteed if you'll just send them YOUR MONEY. What a bunch of charlatans!

The 700 Club would lead people to believe that they can fornicate, practice homosexuality, murder their children through abortion, be an idolater, live horribly in sin, and yet be guaranteed financial gain if they'll just send in that donation ....

(Jesus-Is-Savior.com)

Umm ... wow.

 

[Waleed_Halal]

It shows how much conservative Christians, have power.

 

[Orleander]

If the liberties of the American people are ever destroyed, they will fall by the hands of the clergy.
Marquis de Lafayette

 

[sandy]

We CCRs don't like any of our choices. None will do. If we don't come up with a plan Z by January, we're screwed.

There are several great stories out today. One says what I've been saying for months:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/08/america/NA-ANL-POL-US-Republicans-Conservatives.php

Farah has a great blast of the Robertson endorsement: "Is he nuts?"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58556

Robertson's endorsement doesn't mean much. I agree with most of what Pat says but not this time.

 

[spidergoat]

It's strange. Hillary and Bill are still married and Giuliani had three marriages. Family values indeed.

 

[madanthonywayne]

It's strange. Hillary and Bill are still married and Giuliani had three marriages. Family values indeed.

Gee, I thought the refrain of the left was that personal issues don't matter? Now they do?

And if Clinton (Bill) was getting BJ's from interns in the oval office when he was president and actually had some work to do, imagine the trouble he'd get into as "first man".

 

[Tiassa]

Gee, I thought the refrain of the left was that personal issues don't matter? Now they do?

That's beside the point. The question is the integrity of the GOP's claim to such issues.

 

[Grantywanty]

8) "Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history." –Pat Robertson

That last bit is my favorite part. Christians in the US are suffering more than any minority in history.

With friends like this I can only hope Guiliani - with all his disgusting and lying use of 9/11 - goes nowhere.

 

[pjdude1219]

We CCRs don't like any of our choices. None will do. If we don't come up with a plan Z by January, we're screwed.

There are several great stories out today. One says what I've been saying for months:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/08/america/NA-ANL-POL-US-Republicans-Conservatives.php

Farah has a great blast of the Robertson endorsement: "Is he nuts?"

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58556

Robertson's endorsement doesn't mean much. I agree with most of what Pat says but not this time.

you still haven't got it the ccrs are being used

 

[Neildo]

Christians in the US are suffering more than any minority in history.

Heh, someone's been watching too much Fox News or somethin..

Yeah, there's a War on Christmas too.. lol..

- N

 

[spidergoat]

Gee, I thought the refrain of the left was that personal issues don't matter? Now they do?

And if Clinton (Bill) was getting BJ's from interns in the oval office when he was president and actually had some work to do, imagine the trouble he'd get into as "first man".

It doesn't matter to me, but I wonder why it doesn't matter to Pat.

 

[Thoreau]

Christians in the US are suffering more than any minority in history.

Who the f*** said that? I'd love to give a kind word or two.

Gay's still can't marry.

Blacks were slaves for hundreds of years.

We slaughtered almost 100 million Native Americans.

Interracial relationships were banned until 1967 in the US.

Jews sufferred greatly through the holocaust as did homosexuals and other minority groups.

Thousands of Chinese rail workers died in America and were treated like slaves along with the Irish.

The list goes on and on and on...

So who ever said that needs to keep thier ignorant dumbass comments to themselves.

 

[shichimenshyo]

Who the f*** said that? I'd love to give a kind word or two.

Gay's still can't marry.

Blacks were slaves for hundreds of years.

We slaughtered almost 100 million Native Americans.

Interracial relationships were banned until 1967 in the US.

Jews sufferred greatly through the holocaust as did homosexuals and other minority groups.

Thousands of Chinese rail workers died in America and were treated like slaves along with the Irish.

The list goes on and on and on...

So who ever said that needs to keep thier ignorant dumbass comments to themselves.

Word, lets not forget the continued bashing and subverting of gay rights by the "moral right"

This is the most bullshit argument I have everheard and christians love to throw themselves a pitty party by using it. Get over yourselves for the love of god....no pun intended.

 

[Ganymede]

Who the f*** said that? I'd love to give a kind word or two.

Gay's still can't marry.

Blacks were slaves for hundreds of years.

We slaughtered almost 100 million Native Americans.

Interracial relationships were banned until 1967 in the US.

Jews sufferred greatly through the holocaust as did homosexuals and other minority groups.

Thousands of Chinese rail workers died in America and were treated like slaves along with the Irish.

The list goes on and on and on...

So who ever said that needs to keep thier ignorant dumbass comments to themselves.

QFT! (quoted for truth, for the un informed