Gravity question.

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Einstein explained gravity by time space curvature and on the principle that the Sun is falling, and all the planets are falling, is this correct? <I am not talking about the centripetal acceleration to clarify>.

The Sun is falling ? To where exactly ?

Any way the rubber sheet is the simplest analogy

Assume this sheet is stretched so that it is perfectly level , then the Sun is introduced by dropping the sun into the middle of this sheet , because of the mass of the sun it will , bend this sheet of rubber or gravity

And the bend is the " gravity " , that is how Einstein fundamentally views gravity

Gravity to Einstein is geometry based
 
The Sun is falling ? To where exactly ?

Any way the rubber sheet is the simplest analogy

Assume this sheet is stretched so that it is perfectly level , then the Sun is introduced by dropping the sun into the middle of this sheet , because of the mass of the sun it will , bend this sheet of rubber or gravity

And the bend is the " gravity " , that is how Einstein fundamentally views gravity

Gravity to Einstein is geometry based
In technical terms, there is nothing that says that the Sun is not falling ''up'', up being used in an arbitrary sense, being a limited visual distance we can see at in the Universe, there is no ''background'', to make a comparison to ''up''.



So how does the rubber sheet analogy explain Gravity in this instance, if the Sun was falling ''up'' ?
 
This is still the Physics and Math forum, yes?

To bad there is no longer a Physcis and Math Moderator.., things seem to be sliding off the edge...
 
This is still the Physics and Math forum, yes?
To bad there is no longer a Physcis and Math Moderator.., things seem to be sliding off the edge...

If they get enough reports about the nonsensical stuff he preaches, it will be moved I'm sure.
Maybe more people need to use the report button instead of just ignoring him.
He has had one post already moved to pseudoscience, and another under consideration for the cesspool.
 
If they get enough reports about the nonsensical stuff he preaches, it will be moved I'm sure.
Maybe more people need to use the report button instead of just ignoring him.
He has had one post already moved to pseudoscience, and another under consideration for the cesspool.
How can something with a question mark on the end be cesspool material?

I am not surprised you do not understand, your logic is poor, and comments like that to questions show this,

I asked a question can you simply not just answer it?
 
This is still the Physics and Math forum, yes?

To bad there is no longer a Physcis and Math Moderator.., things seem to be sliding off the edge...
Would you like me to go read some threads and tell them why they are wrong?, wrong does not make a right.

But a right does not a make a wrong. It is pointless to keep just saying to someone they are wrong, if they are wrong and are talking green aliens etc then fare play, but sometimes it is obvious when they are having fun and learning at the same time.

And sometimes it is obvious that a person really thinks they have the bees knees idea, and are looking for a nobel.

Try chilling dudes, you are all human, share your wisdom,


Explain where ideas are flawed, and do not just say because ''Einstein says so''.

Answer my question please. You know the universe has know definite north.
 
Oh know its you. Why, why do you follow me about on forums and do this?
Follow you about on forums?
I've been on this forum for nearly ten years.
And this is only the second forum I've ever encountered you on - in both cases you joined AFTER me.

Why do I point out that you post crap?
That would be because you post crap, are utterly clueless about science, and incapable of learning.
 
Follow you about on forums?
I've been on this forum for nearly ten years.
And this is only the second forum I've ever encountered you on - in both cases you joined AFTER me.

Why do I point out that you post crap?
That would be because you post crap, are utterly clueless about science, and incapable of learning.

Your posts like always have absolute no merit in this thread, the title is gravity question, I am allowed to question and make assumptions about gravity , the same has the next person, a freedom of speech and thought.
Are you trying to preach science?, of what consequence is it to you, if I post and ask questions, or make theories.
You instantly make a presumption, I am incapable of learning.
Seemingly as it is late at night, and I have been drinking and do not drink normally, and my literate quality is better than your rushed ''lynch mob'' spag.

Your language is terrible with your profanities , whilst children may read this site. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
I am allowed to question and make assumptions about gravity
You're not qualified to "make assumptions" about gravity.

or make theories.
You aren't making theories, you're speculating, based on massive ignorance.

You instantly make a presumption, I am incapable of learning.
Oh right.
Firstly you claim that "I follow you around" (meaning that we've encountered each other before), and NOW you're claiming that I'm making "instant assumptions".
You have demonstrated, consistently and persistently, that you're incapable of learning.
That's why you were banned from the other forum/

and my literate quality is better than your rushed ''lynch mob'' spag.
Your command of English (despite it supposedly being your native language) is no better than your grasp of science: i.e. execrable.
 
You're not qualified to "make assumptions" about gravity.


You aren't making theories, you're speculating, based on massive ignorance.


Oh right.
Firstly you claim that "I follow you around" (meaning that we've encountered each other before), and NOW you're claiming that I'm making "instant assumptions".
You have demonstrated, consistently and persistently, that you're incapable of learning.
That's why you were banned from the other forum/


Your command of English (despite it supposedly being your native language) is no better than your grasp of science: i.e. execrable.
Please do not reply to my thread again ''troll'', trying to disrupt the thread .

A person does not have to be qualified to make assumptions, you are deluded sir.

You do not know me, stop harassing me for no valid reason.
 
And it is no assumption that there is not a universal north, fact, relativity.

''Not unless the entire universe is rotating in 3-dimensional space. We don't know whether it is rotating, though.

There is a lot of rotating going on, though; moons, planets, stars, galaxies, probably galactic clusters too. Where does all this rotation come from. In 3-dimensional space, the poles in all these things point in every direction. ''

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120817212805AAmTtaH
 
Explain where ideas are flawed, and do not just say because ''Einstein says so''.
Answer my question please. You know the universe has know definite north.
Because there is no real rubber sheet that the Sun indents. There is no "incline" to it. There is no "north" in the Universe. You are making assumptions that are incorrect; namely, that an analogy has a real world physicality. It's like someone who thinks that Schrodinger's Cat is a real cat that is being killed (or spared) millions of times a day, every time a random event occurs.
 
How can something with a question mark on the end be cesspool material?

Because your question has been answered, but you refuse to accept them and then return fire with your childish nonsensical views, such as,
[1] The sun does not curve spacetime,
[2]spacetime distortion is Sci/Fi,
[3]there is nothing to distort,
[4]time does not dilate,
[5]time is not related to space in anyway,
[6] there is no dilation of time, and only a timing difference of the malfunctioning timing keeper,
[7]The only distortion is from the Sun itself, space is not distorted, the distortion is the Suns output v planet output,
[8]If Time is real, what does it look like?,
[9] science defines time as a thing, and it is not a thing, and things that are not a thing, can have effect on nothing,
[10] Time is no more than a glorified abacus,
[11] I have replies of distortion of space time, space and time have nothing to distort,
[12]Have you not seen my gravity alternative, it may shed some light on why I say there is no dent, one is not needed, and neither is time and space,
[13]This about the 7th time I have gone over gravity, I want an answer from you , not an answer someone else gave in history,
[14]I ask again what is the curvature of space made of, time is not a physical thing, and there is no physical thing in empty space, the only thing there is to distort, is energy, the curvature of space is a curvature of the suns output,



The above rather inane statements/half questions are all encased with certainty and at the same time he claims he is not trolling and the questions have not been answered.
And he would have us believe he is genuine???
 
In technical terms, there is nothing that says that the Sun is not falling ''up'', up being used in an arbitrary sense, being a limited visual distance we can see at in the Universe, there is no ''background'', to make a comparison to ''up''.

So how does the rubber sheet analogy explain Gravity in this instance, if the Sun was falling ''up'' ?
The problem here is that not only are you talking gibberish, you are talking vague gibberish. If you explain yourself more, perhaps your posts would improve to the level of just being wrong, after which we would be able to help correct them. But you won't -- you'll just repeat your vague gibberish even after people point out that it is nonsense and try to help you fix it. Because you aren't really trying to learn.
 
Your posts like always have absolute no merit in this thread, the title is gravity question, I am allowed to question and make assumptions about gravity , the same has the next person, a freedom of speech and thought.
Are you trying to preach science?, of what consequence is it to you, if I post and ask questions, or make theories.
You instantly make a presumption, I am incapable of learning.
Seemingly as it is late at night, and I have been drinking and do not drink normally, and my literate quality is better than your rushed ''lynch mob'' spag.

Your language is terrible with your profanities , whilst children may read this site. You should be ashamed of yourself.
It's worse than 'incapable of learning'. It's choosing ignorance over scholarship.
 
This is still the Physics and Math forum, yes?

To bad there is no longer a Physcis and Math Moderator.., things seem to be sliding off the edge...
The reports system has improved considerably since the forum software update. We're more likely to be able to police this kind of thing consistently now, so please use the "report" button.

Note, however, that there must be a breach of the forum posting guidelines, and not just the posting of incorrect information. Repeatedly and knowingly posting nonsense - especially to the science sections - is another matter.
 
Repeatedly and knowingly posting nonsense - especially to the science sections - is another matter.


I did post a list of "nonsense" from him in post 96, all taken from his various posts in the first 5 pages of the thread and near all were claimed with out any provisos by the relevant poster.
It will be Interesting to see if he adheres to that.
 
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