Gravitational waves from black hole merger


There is no science in this statement.......This is Kip Thorne popsci..
:)
Yeah sure it is.
"Your right to hold an opinion is not being contested. Your expectation that it be taken seriously is."

Yet it is your own threads that languish in the fringes, tainted by your agenda.
 
You are a liar, I never said this....
Apologies, rajesh said that didn't he? ;)

Yes, one can meaningfully speak of BH density...whats your problem ? You don't know that if you treat BH mass at r = 0, then it is as ridiculous as spacetime curvature, but for a BH denisty can be discussed considering BH to be of R(s) size....I do not think I ever made any other statement ont this..
No it is not meaningful to speak of BH density...rajesh also made that fundamental error [;)] as we all know essencially a BH is nothing more then critically curved spacetime [also denied by yourself and rajesh] with a singularity at the center.
In fact speaking of BH density makes no sense....
Your parroting is BS on this........You do not understand what is the formation process of BH and what is accretion process. Both processes are different...
:) No, my parroting as you put it is fact: All forces are gradually overcome by tidal gravitational effects on a mass's one way trip to the singularity where the mass resides...And of course all supported by the many links I have given in the past to you, particularly in your threads that were moved to the fringes where they should be.
This is lullaby for kids like you.
:) Again false, facts are that a photon emitted just this side of the EH, directly radially away will seem to hover there forever and a day, never quite getting away and never succumbing to the EH of the BH, from the point of view of a local frame:
Again.....
"Your right to hold an opinion is not being contested. Your expectation that it be taken seriously is."
Oh, and also......
these science sites are nothing more than cesspools--every single one of them. they do not pertain to the actual work in the science sectors. they do not contribute anything too actual science. they are simply places for the want-to-bes and the mentally disable to play at(while endlessly insulting actual scientist and science within the same moment), nothing more.

You need to absorb both those highlighted texts my dear friend, because they are the undeniable facts re yourself and others that chose to diss mainstream science on forums such as this.
 
He he he. Clear signs - a 'deleted' post (#384), followed by a poorly formatted #385, that not me but paddoboy needs to take his own advice and 'have a panadol and a good lay down'.
As for that last quote from Kip Thorne in #386 - it backs the 'no intrinsic B field for Kerr-Newman BH' position nicely. So, going from Arthur to Martha without blinking, paddoboy.
Damn - you should have taken that Harbour cruise later, not then. Try and sleep well tonight, paddoboy.:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:;):D
No it backs exactly what I have said matey.....all charges are negated rather quickly, while angular momentum over longer aspects of time.
Oh, and I'm not much of a pill popper, and rarely take any medication, although this year and last I am receiving the flu shot before the onset of our Winter which is free for old bastards such as myself... :D
 
:rolleyes:;):D
No it backs exactly what I have said matey.....all charges are negated rather quickly, while angular momentum over longer aspects of time.

What is 'rather quickly' in the context ? And what is longer aspect of time ? The rather quickly can be as quick as quickie.....
 
See Einstein's paper https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/ . You can also see the links mentioned in this paper for " previous investigation " and "(§ 8)". Einstein only talked of Light energy and no other form of energy in this paper. So, this mass-energy equivalence is for mass and EM energy only.





EM Radiation and Gravitation Radiation are different. So, the same equation can not be true for both these cases. Mass to EM Radiation conversion is proven for its energy content. Is the mass to Gravitation Radiation conversion proven for its energy content?





Let us assume that, your statement is correct. Now what is the condition that the Radiation should be 1.EM or 2.Gravitational .

The paper quoted by you says....BOLD is mine.

Einstein said:
If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c². The fact that the energy withdrawn from the body becomes energy of radiation evidently makes no difference, so that we are led to the more general conclusion that

The mass of a body is a measure of its energy-content; if the energy changes by L, the mass changes in the same sense by L/9 × 1020, the energy being measured in ergs, and the mass in grammes.
 
The paper quoted by you says....BOLD is mine.

Einstein said:
If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c². The fact that the energy withdrawn from the body becomes energy of radiation evidently makes no difference, so that we are led to the more general conclusion that

The mass of a body is a measure of its energy-content; if the energy changes by L, the mass changes in the same sense by L/9 × 1020, the energy being measured in ergs, and the mass in grammes.

As Einstein used the term radiation in the above quote, Can it be used for "gravitational radiation"?

Einstein also said that (from the same paper)
Einstein said:
It is not impossible that with bodies whose energy-content is variable to a high degree (e.g. with radium salts) the theory may be successfully put to the test.

If the theory corresponds to the facts, radiation conveys inertia between the emitting and absorbing bodies.

We know that EM Radiation corresponds to this fact. EM radiation is proven/tested to this Einstein's equation. Is this equation also tested for gravitational radiation? Gravitational radiation is only detected for the first time. So, this Einstein's equation is still not tested for gravitational radiation.
 
What is 'rather quickly' in the context ? And what is longer aspect of time ? The rather quickly can be as quick as quickie.....
Exactly as has been explained to you many times, particularly if I recall correctly, your threads that were shifted to the fringes for obvious reasons.
 
Exactly as has been explained to you many times, particularly if I recall correctly, your threads that were shifted to the fringes for obvious reasons.

You mean the charge would be negated as fast as the 'quickie' time.....that is around 5 minutes ???
 
You mean the charge would be negated as fast as the 'quickie' time.....that is around 5 minutes ???
I mean the charge would be negated in time while angular momentum over far longer periods.
Keep trying, you're bound to snag something one day. ;)

In the meantime don't forget the following facts.....
"Your right to hold an opinion is not being contested. Your expectation that it be taken seriously is."

and as krash so succulently put it
these science sites are nothing more than cesspools--every single one of them. they do not pertain to the actual work in the science sectors. they do not contribute anything too actual science. they are simply places for the want-to-bes and the mentally disable to play at(while endlessly insulting actual scientist and science within the same moment), nothing more.
That is more than evident in your case.
 
A number of things, which has already been answered in this thread. Or are you trolling again? ;)

Take one example....quantify these number of things, and then let us calculate this time for charge ?? Let all know what you really mean by quick negation of charge and somewhat longer of angular momentum...
 
Take one example....quantify these number of things, and then let us calculate this time for charge ?? Let all know what you really mean by quick negation of charge and somewhat longer of angular momentum...
:) I'm afraid I have zero confidence in your mathematical ability and your unqualified, unsupported rather anti cosmological stance.
My links are all reputable: Use them. Your say so and opinion is worthless...sorry about that.
 
I am talking about spin and charge !!
Talk about what you like...Your questions have all been answered, in this thread and others.
And all have been supported by reputable links.
You have nothing except a dream, bolstered by fanaticism.
 
Talk about what you like...Your questions have all been answered, in this thread and others.
And all have been supported by reputable links.
You have nothing except a dream, bolstered by fanaticism.


When the going gets tough, Paddoboy either cops out or starts adhoms............
 
When the going gets tough, Paddoboy either cops out or starts adhoms............
:) I never cop out my friend...and what adhoms are you referring too?
The truth hitting home as to your trolling?
Again, your questions on charge and spin being negated have all been answered.
Take it or leave it.
Remember, what you try and fanatically push and over turn in this forum, makes no difference to the professionals at the coal face. It gets you know where: You must accept that as ego deflating that it is!;)
Although Krash put that a lot more succulently. :)
 
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