Originally posted by Jenyar
M*WIf you can achieve godliness on your own, then do it without belittling others.
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(Since you're dancing around the issues again, I'll repeat myself for the zillionth time. The only reason we are here on Planet Earth is to achieve godliness. Godliness cannot be achieved on one's own. I have made myself clear about that. You are too busy dancing around everyone else's posts, that you don't take the time to digest what they're saying. Like all Xians, you can't see the forest for the trees. Godliness comes with the gift of life. It is something to be achieved in our lifetime. Godliness is something to be attempted while we're here in bodily form. Our godliness was with us before we came into bodily form. Again, there may be some rare individuals who can attain godliness without the help of others, but I believe these people to be few and far between. We are not individual gods, we are all part of the Godhead. We are all part of the one spirit of god. Therefore, we are in essence God on Earth. I have explained this in detail in many of my previous posts, but I realize because you are a Xian, you don't understand nor will accept this concept. Now, I'm having to explain it again! The entire human race is interconnected through the one spirit of god. There is only one soul, the spirit of god, and we are all vessels carrying the spirit of god on the face of the Earth. Godliness is something we should try to obtain while we're here in bodily form. There will come a time that we will discard our bodies, but we will remain in the same spiritual state as we did before we were born. There is no beginning or end to our spirit, only our bodies are temporary Earthsuits. Enough said on this, I hope.)
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Show some patience, understanding and compassion. You can't
"recognize" God's Spirit if you don't recognize God himself, that's just logical.
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(I am still a human being with personal weaknesses and frustrations. I am a very patient, understanding and compassionate person, but where Xians are concerned, I find them to be pushy, redundant, and lack the 'inner-knowing' that they would have if they understood the concept of one god-one spirit-one interconnected human race. It is you, the Xians, that fail to recognize god's spirit and god on the face of the earth. You claim that I don't "recognize" God himself, and my concepts are not logical. That is precisely how I see you Xians. Xians believe in the messenger but not the message.)
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If you say "yes, there is a God" then you must be able to differentiate between yourself and God self. You are not the same; we are not God, nor have we the ability to save ourselves from death.
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What makes you think that I can't distinguish between myself and God? You don't know me. You assume because you're a Xian. The goal here is to "attain godliness on Earth." The aim is to realize the potential we have. The fact that you are a living, breathing human being, and a vessel for the spirit of god (in your words, "Holy Spirit"), and you are interconnected with every other human being on this planet, how can you say we are not god? If we are not part of god, then what are we, and what is our purpose here in bodily form? I will also disagree with your statement that we don't "have the ability to save ourselves from death." Oh, but we do! That's why we're here! The cumulative intelligence of the human race has made wonderful scientific progress in understanding the molecular basis of longevity. We can now regrow damaged organs within a person's body with the harvesting, transplantation, survival and differentiation of one's own bone marrow stem cells. We can build new hearts, livers, pancreases, etc. What's even more than that, scientists have found that the length of the telomers in one's body determines the longevity of that person. The aim of science is to study how to find the causation of shorter telomers and find what it takes to make these telomers longer to extend the lifespan. So, contrary to your negative understanding about 'eternal physical life' and 'eternal spirituality,' we do have it in our collective consciousness to prevent death of the body or at least extend life dramatically in the next few years. But, this was all in the greater scheme of things. There are no accidents, and there is synchronicity in the universe, and we are so much a part of it, we are it--God. So, how do you explain the rate of knowledge the past 100 years is equal to the rate of knowledge in the past 20,000 years? If this is not a manifestation of God within us, I don't know what is. You can go ahead and keep your god sitting up there on a big fluffy white cloud casting lightening bolts down on those of us who believe we are one with god. It must be those lightening bolts that give us the spark to create new ideas for humankind. But I just don't believe that God is distant from us. God is Us-We are God. God wouldn't strike himself with a lightening bolt, would he? No, I don't think so. Everything was pre-arranged even before we came here. We were shaping our personal destiny as well as our interconnected destiny before we were born, and we are living out our destiny now. There is no death of the spirit. To believe in an all-powerful God who created the massive, wonderful universe, yet believe that we are mere lowly sinful creatures who should cower in fear at the Great Creator God but still need a fantasy savior to save us from our sins and lowliness is, in fact, denying God! How sad. The ones who claim to know God, don't know it at all! And, this is the source of my lack of patience, understanding, and compassion for Xians. Xians are determined to distance themselves from the power and unity of God. This is based on fear. You fear the power of God within yourselves! It is when you realize your mighty purpose for existence that you come to know God. When this happens, you will discard your man-made religions, because they won't be needed any longer for your 'salvation,' because 'salvation' was already yours from the beginning! You had it before you came here. You'll have it after you leave here. It is eternal. It is You. You are God.