God and Void

irichc

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Every uncaused element must generate, during a certain time, void in its surroundings. Otherwise, it would be in contact with other elements and, therefore, it wouldn't be uncaused.

However, what does set the full extent and duration of this enclosing void?

a) It can't be the interference of other elements, since void is presented, at least during an indefinite period of time, as an irresistible force against all them.

A resistible force –it may be added- would imply the possibility of a cause and, therefore, an effective cause, unless we admit that space preexists matter, or that it can be created contingently from it (which is ridiculous, as far as, if there isn’t space between A and B, is because both elements are mutually in contact).

b) We are also inclined to desestimate the uncaused element as a temporal limit of void, in the case that, being self-determined, it entered in the chain of causality. Thus, if by means of this way of proceeding, it caused some phemomena in the other bodies, it would be reciprocally and at the same time a caused and an uncaused element, that is to say, something self-contradictory.

Premise #1: Void, then, as soon as every restrictive factor is excluded, should be infinite and eternal. For the same reason, the uncaused element that enabled or avoided it would be an eternal one.

Premise #2: However, it has been seen that the very instant of inactivity (= acausality) of one body upon the rest of bodies equals to an unconditioned right of aniquilation on all the existing things.

Conclusion: If this right can’t be limited by anything in the universe, and the uncaused element exists in and with the world, then it is limited by something outside of time. Ergo, in the first place, the universe and what is uncaused, acausality and causality, identify themselves dialectically as one and the same thing. In the second place, He who prevents such a world from obliteration is eternal.

Corollary: We must assume, moreover, that this non-physical Being is omnipotent, that is, that He has the possibility of creating “ex nihilo” and in time, without a cause. Since this possibility is actualized, we attribute Him an understanding.

Therefore, if some uncaused element exists, God, the eternal Being, which is omnipotent and infinitely wise, exists.

Greetings.

Daniel.


Theological Miscellany (in spanish):

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Truth always has a Simple Elegance.

But you take trivial notions which you shuffle together, and the Card you pull off the Top is that God Exists.

Your heavily guided logic amounts to mere assertion.

Besides, God is proof of Himself.
 
Leo,

Your heavily guided logic amounts to mere assertion.

Besides, God is proof of Himself.

Nope there was no logic in Daniel's post, only a pretence at logic, and you are guilty of your own cricticsm - your last statement is mere assertion.
 
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