Wouldn't this explain why humans are totally whacked out? I mean there was some SERIOUS inbreeding going on.
The bible is a collection of books that were inspired by God, but not written directly by God. Their prime message is a moral story not a physical creation account. However that it is not to say that their are not inaccuracies in it. Either from scribes or human authors using common idioms to praise God. The stories in the beginning of Genesis are very old and draw from four oral traditions that were combined into one.So you are saying that you should select which parts of the Bible YOU wish to believe or not? If not everything in this "Holy Scripture" is Sacred then why are we even reading in the first place, rather than for amusement?
Yes, but not magic. Jesus has the power to heal and deform. If you accept it literally, you have people living 500 years or more.So you think God did some googly moogly voodoo magic to keep the children from having deformities and intelligence blunders?
All sin causes death. God is speaking to his prophets, usually through Mary. The miracles of Fatima and at egpyt are credible. This is the time written by Joel, "And say, 'Spare, O LORD, your people, and make not your heritage a reproach with the nations ruling over them! Why should they say among the peoples, 'Where is their God?'" .If you read the Bible it would seem that most everyone of importance in the story lived an incredibly long time. But, I guess God decided it was too long and they could screw up too much stuff in that amount of time so cut it back down to the "normal" 15 to 30 years old of life span. And, why is not God "speaking" to chosen ones and allowing people on earth to live for hundreds of years anymore? Did he give up and go away? Maybe he's working on another project that is taking most of his time?
Why? God is all-powerful and control our physical makeup. There are other parts such as the world wide flood that are harder to explain but I simply don't see any contradiction here.I don't believe that they are diseases as so much as genetic abnormalities. Too many of the same genes being passed back and forth.
I don't mean to be rude but your ideas seem kinda like an easily made excuse as to what may have REALLY happened.
Posted By: Tenson Prime
If a new "species" is created it has to interbreed for a while no matter what.
Posted By: Tenson Prime
What part of Adam and Eve is "genetically impossible" anyway?
Posted By: Okinrus
Their prime message is a moral story not a physical creation account.
Posted By: Okinrus
If you accept it literally, you have people living 500 years or more.
Posted By: Okinrus
All sin causes death.
Posted By: Okinrus
Why? God is all-powerful and control our physical makeup.
Posted By: Okinrus
There are other parts such as the world wide flood that are harder to explain but I simply don't see any contradiction here.
When life originated, what were these "new species" isolated from, would you say?posted by JDawg
Not true. Speciation is commonly caused by geographic isolation of any given species. From there, changes in reproductive patterns and ecology cause the differences between a species and it's new relatives. This does not mean that the new species whom are mating are related.
No, we are assuming that Adam and Eve's genetic code had no defects whatsoever. In any case, an all powerful God has final control over the genetic process.Some of the defects caused by inbreeding (And remember, ANY GIVEN INBRED ANIMAL HAS SOME OF THESE DEFECTS): Elevated incidence of recessive genetic diseases, reduced fertility in both litter size and sperm viability, increased congenital defects like heart defects and cleft palates, lower birthweight, higher neonatal mortality, slower growth rate, smaller adult size, loss of immune functions, and the kicker, fluctuating assymetry (Crooked faces, uneven eye placement and size)!
THAT is why Adam and Eve is impossible.
Isn't it obvious? Even God uses Eden figuatively later on in the bible.Says who? Where, in the Bible, does it say that?
No, all sin causes death. When Adam sinned, he caused death to enter the world. When we sin, we cause spirtual death.Are YOU talking literally or figuratively? None of my sins have killed me.
What is sinful always depends on circumstance. For example, murder is sinful but killing in war is not.So what are you saying? That he made it so inbreeding was OK, but then went back on it? So God changed his mind?
I'm not sure what you mean by physical image. The bible only says image. There are many interpretations of this.if he IS in control of our genetic makeup, how can you say we weren't created in his physical image?
I sitll don't. God is charge of nature and science is the study of nature whose laws were created by God. I said in other threads that atomic research never helped me, not science. The point I was trying to make there was that science is just as controled by the whims of money as religion if not more so. We don't find billions being spent to research dog care. So science is not just knowledge because the body of knowledge is biased. Some people later found some obscure point about fire alarms, but the argument still stands.You dont' see a contradiction? In the same way that you don't see how science is beneficial to the human race? Or how science has never helped you? (Things you have said in other threads) You, just like the authors of the scriptures, explain away things you are ignorant to with tales of God. The reason science throws away religious dogmas is because they don't need to use God as an explanation. Today, they KNOW how and why it rains, so there is no need to say "The Heavens opened, and God let his wrath down."
Well you'd have to find what oral tradition that story in genesis is from. Many oral legends and that sort may have had a character name God(or the many names for God) and this was passed down from history and ended up in the bible. Are the stories wrong? No, they were inspired by knowledge given to the Abraham about God to teach moral lessons.Why would I not accept it literally? Where does it say "This isn't really 500 years."
I think that man created god in his image, some people need to believe in a father figure to look over them. I also think that if whales could draw pictures they would draw their god to look like a whale. I am shocked to still see disbelief in what science has proven(evolution, genetics, the big bang). We are perhaps the most intelligent country in the world and still people turn there back on proof that you can see. Science has given us observable evidence and if I can see something, it kind of helps the crediblility along.
Please cite your source. You would be amazed at the power of oral traditions - part of why the stories contain elements such as gematria (remembering by numerical value) and structure (cf. the two Genesis accounts, even the gospels) is so that it could be remembered with the meaning intact.It is a proven fact that a story passed on orally changes completely as time goes on.