Free Will
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Enmos
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And by that you mean others as well as yourself, right ?
And what about circumstances ? Such as temperature, wind, humidity etc ?
Care to extrapolate?
When you think about it, everything we'll do is already planned. This is hard to explain, but everyone is born with certain DNA, and with a certain upbringing. Taking this into account, isn't it logical that if you asked an omniscient being what someone would do, they'd know. By the way, this isn't me trying to say anything about God, just the fact that everyone's choices and actions are pre-determined, so people thinking they can disobey fate are idiots, and everyone's life can already be seen before it happens, before they're even conceived, because everyone's actions are predictable. Noone can ever go against their DNA or personality, because that's who you are. I don't think I've done my thoughts justice with the words I've used, but I hope this is understandable.
Enmos
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That's just one little thing we're limited by though.
so then free-will is more than a concept , so free-will is a reality then
just to be clear , free-will is a reality
[Originally Posted by thinking]
so then free-will is more than a concept , so free-will is a reality then
just to be clear , free-will is a reality [/quote]
the ability to question(s) by the self
so then free-will is more than a concept , so free-will is a reality then
just to be clear , free-will is a reality [/quote]
the ability to question(s) by the self
Not quite sure what you mean here.
Are you trying to say that the ability of a person to ask a question is evidence for having free-will??
What about if a chimpanzee or a computer asks a question?
yes
then the chimpanzee has free-will
then the computer is programed to do so ?
how else could it
the difference being in the complexity in our fundamental constituents of ourselves vitamins , minerals , proteins etc
a computer has only minerals
my point being is this
the more constituents that an object is made of , the closer you are to the Universe
Regardless, compositional complexity was not part of your original criterion for free-will. According to your definition, a computer exhibits free-will.
With respect to the complexity and/or programming issue I urge you to look this up: Turing Test.
Not sure what you mean here but, whatever relevance does this have to the concept of free-will?
inotherwords
the more constituents a being is made of the more free-will it has
a computer , no matter how much info it has or takes in , can be nothing more then the essence of what it is , silicon and the perspective of a silicon based thinking and thought object
a computer cannot ask a question unless asked by the programme , deliberately , a computer is a simple thing , it is not independent of the programmer
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