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For God to condemn you just to die for you is ridiculous and immoral.
In doing so, God would be endorsing human sacrifice and the notion that punishing the innocent instead of the guilty is good justice. He would also be condoning suicide.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Psalm 49:7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
Substitutionary atonement is immoral according to scriptures and all other holy books that I know of. I think that the guilty should be punished and not an innocent human or even a man being ridden like a mule, ---- to use common jargon, --- by a God/Jesus. This is likely the moral reason why most Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah along with the fact that Jesus did not fulfill the other Jewish requirements set by their books and myths.
People are supposed to martyr themselves for their God, not their God martyr himself for them.
Do you agree that for God to condemn you just to die for you is ridiculous and immoral?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqP_fjBkwxc&feature=related
If you believe that substitutionary atonement is moral, please provide an argument to support your position.
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There are also ample quotes in scripture that speak against God wanting any sacrifice at all and if you embrace the notion of innocent blood atonement and God setting Jesus as the ransom for sins, then please view these for the real biblical perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoHP-f-_F9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ott15j2KwQ&feature=related
Regards
DL
In doing so, God would be endorsing human sacrifice and the notion that punishing the innocent instead of the guilty is good justice. He would also be condoning suicide.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Psalm 49:7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
Substitutionary atonement is immoral according to scriptures and all other holy books that I know of. I think that the guilty should be punished and not an innocent human or even a man being ridden like a mule, ---- to use common jargon, --- by a God/Jesus. This is likely the moral reason why most Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah along with the fact that Jesus did not fulfill the other Jewish requirements set by their books and myths.
People are supposed to martyr themselves for their God, not their God martyr himself for them.
Do you agree that for God to condemn you just to die for you is ridiculous and immoral?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqP_fjBkwxc&feature=related
If you believe that substitutionary atonement is moral, please provide an argument to support your position.
===============================================
There are also ample quotes in scripture that speak against God wanting any sacrifice at all and if you embrace the notion of innocent blood atonement and God setting Jesus as the ransom for sins, then please view these for the real biblical perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoHP-f-_F9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ott15j2KwQ&feature=related
Regards
DL
