Femto camera proves light is a wave and space is it's medium.

trevor borocz johnson

trevor borocz johnson

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I have an exciting new experiment to test for space being the medium for light waves. It is similar to the famous Michelson and Morley experiment.

The experiment utilizes a Femto camera. A Femto camera takes a trillion frames per second and is capable of capturing light in slow motion as it leaves its source. The link below is a video of just that. By pausing the video where light has expanded into s sphere, one can then measure for space 'moving past' just as they did in the M&M experiment. If space is in fact the medium for light one would expect to be able to measure for the slight difference in speed along different directions in a paused image of the Femto camera.

When I measured with a ruler on the screen I did in fact find that light was travelling faster by a few mm per 25 cm in one direction over the other depending on how you want to look at it.

All waves are a denser part of a medium spreading out to a less dense part of that medium, so light is just that and its medium is space.

 
Spacetime is the medium for light waves actually.
In fact spacetime is the whole general framework against which we locate events and describe the relationships between them in terms of our known spatial coordinates and time. Spacetime allows a description of reality that is common for all observers in the universe, regardless of their relative motion. Intervals of space and time considered separately are not the same for all observers.
 
trevor borocz johnson said:
you can see in the video that it is a wave. I don't see it turning back and forth into a particle. GR..bunch of huey
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This one remark alone proves you have no idea what you are doing.

1) Nobody expects you to see light turning from a wave into a particle and back. That just shows total ignorance of quantum theory

2) This is nothing to do with GR at all.
 
This is the best explanation of the Femto camera I've read so far and describes how it creates film 'virtually' from wiki:
"....Even higher speed imaging is possible using specialized electronic charge-coupled device (CCD) imaging systems, which can achieve speeds of over 25 million fps. These cameras, however, still use rotating mirrors, like their older film counterparts. Solid state cameras can achieve speeds of up to 10 million fps. [10][11] All development in high-speed cameras is now focused on digital video cameras which have many operational and cost benefits over film cameras.

In 2010 researchers built a camera exposing each frame for two trillionths of a second (picoseconds), for an effective frame rate of half a trillion fps (femto-photography).[12][13] Modern high-speed cameras operate by converting the incident light (photons) into a stream of electrons which are then deflected onto a photoanode, back into photons, which can then be recorded onto either film or CCD."
 
Femto camera proves light is a wave and space is it's medium.

Has there been some dispute about light being a wave?

What alternative was proposed?

Space. If all mater was removed from space you would finish up with a region containing only electromagnetic waves

So your claim becomes - electromagnetic waves are the medium of light? Ya?

:)
 
Michael 345 said:
Space. If all mater was removed from space you would finish up with a region containing only electromagnetic waves

So your claim becomes - electromagnetic waves are the medium of light? Ya?
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How in the world is all matter going to disappear? Matter is infinite big and small and in infinite numbers. If the universe is an atom to a larger universe, and this happens infinitely, expansive, and divided, the Aether would be infinitely cold at greater distances from matter but you can't reach infinity. Instead of a perfect balance between the infinitely hot and infinitely cold we appear to move only outwardly as energy escapes at light speed creating the one way flow of time.
 
trevor borocz johnson said:
How in the world is all matter going to disappear? Matter is infinite big and small and in infinite numbers. If the universe is an atom to a larger universe, and this happens infinitely, expansive, and divided, the Aether would be infinitely cold at greater distances from matter but you can't reach infinity. Instead of a perfect balance between the infinitely hot and infinitely cold we appear to move only outwardly as energy escapes at light speed creating the one way flow of time.
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Well, prove it.

You lost me.
 
trevor:
trevor borocz johnson said:
A Femto camera takes a trillion frames per second and is capable of capturing light in slow motion as it leaves its source. The link below is a video of just that.
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Er... no.

For a camera to see light, the light has to enter the camera. No camera can take video of light "from the side" as the light travels. Nothing is given off "to the side" as light travels, so the camera, if set up correctly, would record exactly nothing.
By pausing the video where light has expanded into s sphere, one can then measure for space 'moving past' just as they did in the M&M experiment.
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Whatever that is expanding into a sphere on the video, it isn't light.

Did you read the video description? [I don't need to do that to know it doesn't show light travelling.]

What is the video actually showing?
 
Michael 345 said:
Has there been some dispute about light being a wave?
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Yes. There was a debate 400 years ago, then another debate 300 years ago, then a third debate 100 years ago. Since the most recent debate, the issue is pretty much settled: light is neither a wave nor a particle, but displays properties of either waves or particles, depending on the particular experiment being performed.
 
exchemist said:
This one remark alone proves you have no idea what you are doing.

1) Nobody expects you to see light turning from a wave into a particle and back. That just shows total ignorance of quantum theory

2) This is nothing to do with GR at all.
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So most people wouldn't understand the importance of the femto camera and like I said any light experiment could be recorded for accuracy to its results instead of fantasyzing what's going on. You argue for the Mikelson moorley results, who cares, any normal person would accept that you confuse the experiment so it looks real. The aether wind is shown to exist in this video what is your pfft arguemnet?
 
trevor borocz johnson said:
So most people wouldn't understand the importance of the femto camera and like I said any light experiment could be recorded for accuracy to its results instead of fantasyzing what's going on. You argue for the Mikelson moorley results, who cares, any normal person would accept that you confuse the experiment so it looks real. The aether wind is shown to exist in this video what is your pfft arguemnet?
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I don't need one. A century of physics makes it for me. You can read that for yourself on the internet. But you won't, because you are as mad as a box of frogs.
 
trevor borocz johnson said:
So most people wouldn't understand the importance of the femto camera and like I said any light experiment could be recorded for accuracy to its results instead of fantasyzing what's going on.
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Why have your ignored my comment, above?

The camera doesn't show what you think it shows. I explained why.
The aether wind is shown to exist in this video what is your pfft arguemnet?
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When no evidence is offered in support of a claim, no evidence is needed to dismiss it.
 
James R said:
When no evidence is offered in support of a claim, no evidence is needed to dismiss it.
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It takes little evidence to dismiss a claim…

what you propose is extremism… however delightful… claims can still be true without evidence. Evidence requires a physical impact. Threats have no physical impact, but that doesn’t make the claim of a threat untrue…

I should be a judge…
 
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