Fatwa to wipe evil Israeli regime off the map!

[S.A.M.]

Norse's identification with Phoenician culture would be as specious as me identifying with Cherokee culture because NEITHER of us are even close to either of them genealogically or linguistically speaking.

Because he is Arabised, it makes him less Syrian?

I think you simplifiy identity too much.

 

[superstring01]

Because he is Arabised, it makes him less Syrian?

I think you simplify identity too much.

OH MY GOD, you are dense. Did I say anything about him being LESS Syrian? Did I? "Syrian" is a modern name derived from Assyria. Can you read? I was talking PHOENICIAN. Remember that word "Phoenician" not "Syrian".

Norse can call himself (remember this?) Jupiterian, but that doesn't make him PHOENICIAN. PHOENICIAN.

Say it with me, you can do it!

Honestly, SAM, do you even have a high school (or equivalent) education?

You know what... forget it. You're inventing things and that's a symptom of a much bigger problem.

~String

 

[S.A.M.]

OH MY GOD, you are dense. Did I say anything about him being LESS Syrian? Did I? "Syrian" is a modern name derived from Assyria. Can you read? I was talking PHOENICIAN. Remember that word "Phoenician" not "Syrian".

Norse can call himself (remember this?) Jupiterian, but that doesn't make him PHOENICIAN. PHOENICIAN.

Say it with me, you can do it!

Honestly, SAM, do you even have a high school (or equivalent) education?

You know what... forget it. You're inventing things and that's a symptom of a much bigger problem.

~String

Oh Norse is an ass. I am just arguing the point in the abstract. I've been saying Syrian all along, haven't I?

 

[superstring01]

Oh Norse is an ass. I am just arguing the point in the abstract. I've been saying Syrian all along, haven't I?

All of your posts have posited a cultural connection between the Syrians and "peoples past", which is relevant, but your statements were done so in order to defend the Phoenician claim. That was dense.

~String

 

[S.A.M.]

All of your posts have posited a cultural connection between the Syrians and "peoples past", which is relevant, but your statements were done so in order to defend the Phoenician claim. That was dense.

~String

Well I've been arguing the position of Syrians as Levantines. I don't know what you are interpreting over and above my points.

 

[Norsefire]

Yes, and how many of you still worship Phoenician gods, speak Phoenician and use the Phoenician alphabet?

None, I suspect.

You're culture has more in common with Arab culture than anything that used to be Phoenician. Call yourselves Jupiterians for all I care-- you're still Arab. You may have Phoenician ancestors, but having a great-great-great-[multiply]-grandmother who got laid by a Phoenician guy doesn't make you a Phoenician, any more than I'm a Cherokee Indian.

~String

My culture is Arab but my race is phoenician

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Provide the genetic DNA markers, that is the only way of knowing.

 

[Norsefire]

Provide the genetic DNA markers, that is the only way of knowing.

I look nothing like an Arab, for one, and I know for a fact that I come from Phoenician or Assyrian descent, but I'd say Phoenician

 

[Buffalo Roam]

I look nothing like an Arab, for one, and I know for a fact that I come from Phoenician or Assyrian descent, but I'd say Phoenician

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

 

[Norsefire]

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

I do not understand, but since you are a redneck, I may laugh as well!

 

[superstring01]

I do not understand, but since you are a redneck, I may laugh as well!

I believe he is referring to your singular attachment to a genetic contribution that is so lost in the obscurity of time, that your claims to it are laughable.

Sure you have Phoenician blood! I'm also a Gaul!

Why not claim to be Babylonian or Hittite too!

~String

 

[Buffalo Roam]

I believe he is referring to your singular attachment to a genetic contribution that is so lost in the obscurity of time, that your claims to it are laughable.

Sure you have Phoenician blood! I'm also a Gaul!

Why not claim to be Babylonian or Hittite too!

~String

Thank you.

 

[Norsefire]

I am an Arab by self-proclamation and culture, but in terms of actual ethnicity it's Phoenician.

It's like what I tell to the Lebanese who think of themselves as Phoenicians, they may be but they are Arabs too

 

[S.A.M.]

I am an Arab by self-proclamation and culture, but in terms of actual ethnicity it's Phoenician.

It's like what I tell to the Lebanese who think of themselves as Phoenicians, they may be but they are Arabs too

I'm sure this is true for all those who call themselves American but are not native Americans by ethnicity (maybe German or Gaul )

 

[Norsefire]

I'm sure this is true for all those who call themselves American but are not native Americans by ethnicity (maybe German or Gaul )

Yes, there we go! Most Americans are British, German, French, etc, by ethnic origin but they consider themselves American.

 

[S.A.M.]

However...

Genetic research using Y-chromosome haploid analysis has identified a Phoenician genetic marker (a so-to-speak "Canaanite gene") among modern Lebanese populations, including among Maronite Christians and Shi'ite Muslims, especially near the coast

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_gene
http://www.phoenicia.org/genetics.html#Macedonians
Be interesting to see if the Palestinians have it. They weren't included in the sample

The study used the following samples for their calculations: 172 unrelated ethnic Macedonians from Skopje; 98 Moroccans; 98 Berbers; 94 Moroccan Jews; 176 Spaniards; 80 Basques; 228 Portuguese; 179 French; 102 Algerians; 91 Sardinians; 284 Italians; 80 Ashkenazi Jews; 80 non-Ashkenazi Jews; 135 Cretans; 85 Greeks from the Aegean; 95 Greeks from Attica; 101 Greeks from Cyprus; 59 Lebanese from Niha el Shouff; 93 Lebanese from Kafar Zubian; 100 Iranians; 228 Turks; 105 Armenians; 101 Egyptians from Siwa; 83 Oromo; 98 Amhara; 38 Fulani; 39 Rimaibe; 42 Mossi; 77 San (Bushmen); 192 Senegalese; and 86 South African Blacks.

I wonder why

 

[Norsefire]

OK your point?

 

[S.A.M.]

If people a little away from the coast don't exhibit the gene, finding it all the way in al-Mashriq might be a bit surprising.

 

[Norsefire]

Most Lebanese are Phoenicians and some Syrians are as well


The only real Arabs are Saudi Arabians. Others are only Arabs by conquest

 

[Buffalo Roam]

However...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_gene
http://www.phoenicia.org/genetics.html#Macedonians
Be interesting to see if the Palestinians have it. They weren't included in the sample



I wonder why

Probably the most "controversial" illustration from the original censored article. The Jew- and Palestinian dots are too close for political acceptance it seems.
Genetically, the Palestinians and the Jews are very close relatives. But we're not allowed to know that. I wonder why!?


(2001): The Origin of Palestinians and Their Genetic Relatedness With Other Mediterranean Populations, Human Immunology, vol. 62, n 9, september 2001, pp. 889-900 [HTML | PDF].