Bullpuckie! Do you consider the global flood, the exodus, the virgin birth, and the resurrection credible? On what basis?Originally posted by JDawg
Most of the places in the Bible are real, the events are in question, but nobody has ever been able to "discredit" them.
Originally posted by firingseeds
the basis they are credible is the fact that even man couldn't have dreamed them up - and then expect u to believe it.
Originally posted by Free Cycle
Increan:
It was a noble effort. Why don't you set the parameters as "explain the existence of god without using the bible," regardless of that book's validity.
Originally posted by Flores
How do you describe motion in humans:
Physics
How do you describe chemical reactions in the human body
Chemistry
How do you describe body functions
Biology
Many Many disciplines are used to scientifically describe ourselves and our earth. Each one of those disciplines have equations made up of parameters. All of these equations describe forces.
We don't have any understanding of the combining forces that combine the deciplines, yet we know that for us humans or even for little ants to function, the forces are all working together in harmony. So what is the combining force in nature that is:
Keeping the earth in perfect motion.
The planets and stars in their designated orbits
Ect...Ect...
I'd like to call the combining force of the universe god......It is not a unicorn or invisible elephant or a Jesus or a whatever, it's beyond our comprehension.
What is so unscientific about that.?
Originally posted by Increan
To All Christians:
We have had so many threads about wheather or not God exists. I want one good reason why he exists
Originally posted by sargentlard
there isn't one
Originally posted by ProCop
Prove that there is mathematics:
we have a perception of multicity of objects - we translate them in numbers and so create an abstract system such as mathematics. This system is not composed of only the numbers but also of many rules/relations which allow abstract constructions which can be reconstacted and when applied to reality they are true in what they state (cq the pythagoras rule) Did Pythagoras construct his rule: no he "discovered it" He discovered an infinite rule about beahviour of numbers.
The prove that there is god:
there are mental objects such as "creation", "infinity", "god" which also compose a sytem which is comparable to mathematics, cq it has logic, (eg we know that an infinite line is possible - by reasoning thus infinity is possible and infinity is beyond full understanding of the human mind thus conceptually there is something which overeaches our thinking capacity) Religion is the "mathematics of complete understanding of being" this logic leads to system that requires beyond human capacity to be fully understood it requires god. Being human requires god to be able to happen fully as being/understandig the world which we can understand only within a system which requires god to give sense to all which we cannot grasp but which experince as life in an universe. God is then a rquired element in human thinking about the world to make it fully understood. You can chose not to accept the god as creator, but then you start to open a chain of abbyses of ignorance where about most fundamental questions of the universe (eg. what is time ) you must say I do not know...while believer will say Time is Gods creation...
Originally posted by ProCop
Do you exist?