Does capitalism work?

Does capitalism work?

  • Yes

    Votes: 76 62.8%

  • No

    Votes: 45 37.2%
  • Total voters
    121
baumgarten said:
That scale is meaningless as it is. What units graduate the scale? How do they relate to other units? You said it can be measured; I assume there are certain empirical data I should be looking for in the real world which can quantifiably indicate the functionality of society.
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It is obvious you cannot read.
I shall reiterate for your kindergarten brain.

In a community of people such as the community of earth, there is organization under institution. The purpose of institution is to serve the individual. The functionality of a community is a range from 0 to perfect. Perfect is a society which fully accomodates the individual.

A community moving steadily towards the "perfect ideal" is practical/functional. A community with no interest in this movement is impractical/disfunctional. A comminity is only functional because it is intentionally moving in the practical direction.

Desperation is a state of lack. It is not a mind state. Every individual no matter the location on the planet is in need of various necessities. This planet contains resources far more abundant that humanity could ever consume in many lifetimes. Furthermore, over centuries, these resources regenerate themselves. Every moment new resources are springing to fruitation while other resources are being used. The planet is a giant vat of abundance and virtually unlimited resources.

Disillusional idiology is the idioligy of scarcity. It is a false idiology. This idiology is the basis of the disillusional paradigm of economics. The truth is not based on scarcity, but based on abundance. The disillusional paradigm, and any economic system based on this paradigm such as capitalism leads to the destruction of the individual as well as the destruction of environmental abundance and regeneration capabilities. Paradigms of scarcity include false paradigms of human nature, and other regurgitated fallacies that stupid people use to defend their disfunctional institution like crabs.

Global warming, for example, is no different from the human body heating up when it is ill.

The basis of a functional institution is the prosperity of the individual. The basis of a disfunctional institution is the destruction of the individual. Desperation is a very important tool in a disfunctional community.

The story of the crab is that in wich the crab enters a trap. Many crabs are in a trap with a hole on top for easy escape. When an intelligent crab starts climbing towards the escape hole, remaining crabs grab hold of him, and pull him down. Sometimes tearing off his limbs or murdering him.

NEXT TIME TRY RESPONDING TO THE POST INSTEAD OF A LINE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.
 
baumgarten said:
We have it to thank for our comfortable, excessive lifestyle.
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No "we" don't. The rich do. We have it to thank for our absolute poverty. The rich do not pay for anything. Everybody else pays so that the rich may live excessive lifestyles.

baumgarten said:
In today's world, abundance is the illusion.
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Wrong. Scarcity is the illusion. The illusion is a paradigm of economics based on limited resources instead of abundance.
As long as the economy does not abuse the planet, resources are of vast abundance.
Unfortunately, capitalism is ineffective in a functional society. Capitalism does not make for a community in which the institution serves the individual. It makes for a community in which desperation is madatory. Instead of moving towards the elimination of desperation, capitalism ensures desperation continues. Ergo dysfunctional.
 
cool skill said:
Here is his reasoning:
If Cool Skill does not post designs for a better system than capitalism. Capitalism is the best system within the scope of Mosheh's pea sized brain. Therefore, solutions that real intellects have created do not exist.

The fact this idiot believes capitalism is the best system there is, and bases this by comparing it relative to other primitive systems rather than more advanced system shows what a total ignoramous life he lives.
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Okay, so what is the 'more advanced system'?
 
spuriousmonkey said:
Now let us examine real life. Who is indeed more competitive in human society? Is it the rich who have the competitive edge on a capitalist level? No. They have on average less children than the poor. It's natural to be poor then? No, it just shows you cannot transplant the theory of one specific level of biology to another without ending up with nonsense.
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You're confusing the metaphore with reality. No one ever said that those who are most sucessful in a capitalist system would automatically be sucessful in evolutionary terms. The point is simply that the two systems [capitalism and evolution] operate via a similiar mechanism.

You are keen to point out that an animal that possesses a trait which confers a reproductive advantage is not conciously "competing" with its neighboor. So what. Neither is the shopkeeper who simply strives to provide excellent service, and ends up driving his competitors out of business.

Capitalism is simply economic freedom. It is order emerging from a chaotic system; similar to what occurs in nature. What is the alternative? Command and control economies in which the government decides who does what. Such systems are inherently inefficient. The central government has neither the knowledge or motivation found in the heart and mind of each individual operating in a capitalist system.

Put the government in charge of the forrest and we get mass extinctions and out of control forrest fires. Put the government in charge of the economy and we get poverty.
 
No "we" don't. The rich do. We have it to thank for our absolute poverty. The rich do not pay for anything. Everybody else pays so that the rich may live excessive lifestyles.
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The aforementioned starving children in non-Westernized areas would be highly offended by this bold proclamation. You don't realize how well you have it.

Wrong. Scarcity is the illusion. The illusion is a paradigm of economics based on limited resources instead of abundance.
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Wow. I just wrote a whole fucking thesis paper explaining to you why resources are scarce and will continue to get scarcer. And you respond with this shit? You already told me this! Several times! Why don't you tell me why? Better yet, why don't you make at least half an attempt at responding to anything I wrote? I'm insulted. I'm genuinely insulted. You disgrace me with your incompetence.

As long as the economy does not abuse the planet, resources are of vast abundance.
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Support this statement. Cite a source.

Unfortunately, capitalism is ineffective in a functional society. Capitalism does not make for a community in which the institution serves the individual. It makes for a community in which desperation is madatory. Instead of moving towards the elimination of desperation, capitalism ensures desperation continues. Ergo dysfunctional.
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Support this statement without reiterating it.
 
it seems... cool skill.... isnt cool enough to answer questions.

and he doesnt have the skill to try and word his answers...


so.. like a child.. he ignores the question and changes the subject, usually by having a fit, and throwing insults...

so sad, and patheitc.

i have decided to never respond directly to uncoolskillless again...

since he refuses to answer questions, and will only insult you, like a rotten child.


-MT
 
Yeah, isn't it a shame? I wrote that whole essay, too. I thought it was pretty good.

Oh, yeah - the last time someone called me bumbgarten was in first grade. Says something, doesn't it?
 
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Yes it does. That is because you never made it past first grade.
You have a kindergarten brain.
Topic has already been addressed.
I guess you just don't know how to read.


Mosheh Thezion said:
it seems... cool skill.... isnt cool enough to answer questions.

and he doesnt have the skill to try and word his answers...


so.. like a child.. he ignores the question and changes the subject, usually by having a fit, and throwing insults...

so sad, and patheitc.

i have decided to never respond directly to uncoolskillless again...

since he refuses to answer questions, and will only insult you, like a rotten child.


-MT
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Blah blah blah blah. Go blabber elsewhere. You have nothing of interest to say. Just unfounded complaints about cool skill.
 
Sigh...

I'm putting you on my ignore list, cool skill. You are the first person to receive this honor. Goodbye.
 
baumgarten said:
Sigh...

I'm putting you on my ignore list, cool skill. You are the first person to receive this honor. Goodbye.
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Good ridance to ignorance kinderbumbgarten.
 
If we were discussing it at a table, I would have bitchslapped him by now. Possibly a bar fight would break out.
 
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