Die For Your Country

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lixluke

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My neighbors made this song caled "Die For Your Country".
It is about how we should die for the USA, and crush Iraq in retaliation to the World Trade Center Bombings.

I was very confused about this song.
I thought American Government wanted to go to war with Iraq from the beginning. But they had no justification for this.
After all, we are a free country that would never violate the rights of foreign countries, and invade them for their resources.

Therefore, they got their partners, Osama and the Taliban, to blow up the towers in New York.
This incident, coupled with press releases, and speeches to the American public using mass media would get Americans to think like they want them to think. "It's payback time. Let's get them."

The original plan was to blame the Iraqis for blowing up the WTC, but that fell through really fast, and it got out that Osama and his crew were responsible. Instead, Americans wanted to go get Osama. So the plan worked to incite the Americans to anger, but the target was wrong. Then they decided to make Iraq Osama's partner.
Therfore, justification to send troops into Iraq.
 
"In 125 separate appearances, they (Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice) made {...} 61 misleading statements about Iraq's relationship with al-Qaeda" — Report by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Government Reform — Minority Staff

PDF file of full report Iraq on the Record: The Bush Administration's Public Statements on Iraq, by the United States House of Representatives Committee on Government Reform - Minority Staff Special Investigations Division, March 16, 2004:

http://www.house.gov/reform/min/pdfs_108_2/pdfs_inves/pdf_admin_iraq_on_the_record_rep.pdf

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I would like the opinion of anybody that believes we should die for a country run by rich people that are sending humans to Iraq, to do the dirty work killing Iraqis, for the benifit of the rich.

In other words, we should die for killing Iraqis, so that the rich can be proud of us as the reap all the benifits.
 
The only time one should die for their country is when defending it. If your Homeland isn't being attacked, it's your own choice to fight another man's offensive war for greedy corporations. But hey, that's the job of a soldier. Too bad even National Guardsmen that want to defend their homeland or help in national emergencies are now being used offensively in those wars.

Defensive wars I support. Offensive wars I have no sympathy for those involved. Unfortunately, I wind up having to support those involved because usually they're lied to with our offensive wars so you can't really hold it against the soldiers, unless they choose to remain there even after knowing they were lied to, even going as to far to continue to praise those same leaders that tricked em into war.

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger

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Neildo said:
"In 125 separate appearances, they (Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld and Rice) made {...} 61 misleading statements about Iraq's relationship with al-Qaeda" — Report by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Government Reform — Minority Staff

PDF file of full report Iraq on the Record: The Bush Administration's Public Statements on Iraq, by the United States House of Representatives Committee on Government Reform - Minority Staff Special Investigations Division, March 16, 2004:

http://www.house.gov/reform/min/pdfs_108_2/pdfs_inves/pdf_admin_iraq_on_the_record_rep.pdf

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Thanks.


spidergoat said:
Ha, ha, I want to hear the song!
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We almost got it recorded. It's great! It sounds really good too. I wanted to put my vocals in, but they already have lyrics filling up the whole 5:16 min song.
 
It was actually the French who blew up the WTC. You see, that way they killed a whole bunch of birds with one stone.
With the WTC down, American trade interests were severly curtailed. Not only that, but it would enrage the US into going into a war with someone whom the French could make a profit from - Iraq. France gains a march on a major economic rival by selling them weapons, America goes to war and spends billions on it, therefore putting them further in debt, and Iraq gets blown to hell in the meantime, which enables the French to sell even more weapons. They are even now entering into trade agreements with Iran in anticipation of further conflict in that area. They've even been caught setting a precedent, if anyone remembers the Rainbow Warrior.
I have several internet sources who can justify every word I've said.

See, we can all make up unsubstantiated stories. Mine even sounds more plausilble than yours, in my opinion. Perhaps I should write a spy novel using it as a premise?

This place... is getting worse than it was. The inmates have indeed taken over the asylum.
 
The Marquis said:
Mine even sounds more plausilble than yours
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No it does not.
Why even make up a story about the French?
You are being unreasonable and arrogant.
If you disagree with my interpretations, I would suggest you post the flaws. I am open to logical opinions because you might know something I do not. Instead of trolling with arrogance. Try something, like:
Your interpretation of what happened is wrong.
This is what really happened.

Instead of making up some ignorant story, try providing a real explaination.
I am not here to debate. I'm here for sincere opinions.
Insincere opinions are for insincere dullards.
 
cool skill said:
My neighbors made this song caled "Die For Your Country".
It is about how we should die for the USA, and crush Iraq in retaliation to the World Trade Center Bombings.
I was very confused about this song.
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Haha, omg...I believe you.

I would die for my family if necessary, but not for my country, and never make a song about it ( although a song about your neighbours would be neat) But then, if you really believe in dying for your country, I can see that a song is indeed needed. To keep out all the voices of reasoning.

If the two are interlinked though, then family comes first. Maybe your neighbours really see and feel that America and every person in it, is their family, they might have extremely huge hearts. And surely never complains about anything at all, ever. The terrorists where just hurled at them at point blank. Wtf, they thought, we must make a song. We must send out our sons and daughters to war! Our children must die! That is the ONLY WAY!!!
 
Oh, I have sincere opinions, Coolskill. I also sincerely believe you would not like hearing them.

You appear to have missed the point completely anyway.
Enjoy your fictions. I'm going back under my bridge.
 
The Marquis said:
I'm going back under my bridge.
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Figures.

There is more to the war than rich people sending humans to other countries to die, and kill other humans for the benifit of the rich.
The best way to get a massive population to working harder for the rich is give them the threat of war.
I did not get the chance to talk to them yesterday, but I am going to see if they are around today to see if we can get their song on wax.
 
It's really funny to listen to the liberals to discuss war, death, and dieing like they have any idea of what there talking about, all they do is take the moral high ground and try to tell the U.S. and Israel the proper way to lose a war, I won't die for my country, and I didn't die for my country, I made the other dumb bastard who came up against me die for his country, that is war, at its most primal, basic survival, no thoughts about the Geneva Convention, no thoughts about the IHL, just the self serving interest in surviving the next 10 seconds, and trying to make sure my brothers in arms survive in the same manner, and it isn't any different for nations, they have there own motives and interests, and for survival those will always come before the interest of any other nation, or organization that takes another country on, the Israeli have their interests and will act on them when is serves their national interest, and Hamas is getting paid for everything they have earned, and the U.S. will do the same thing and has done the same thing, neither right or wrong just facts of international survival, and if your going to start a war like Hamas has it time For the U.S. to stop saving their ass and let the Israeli finish the JOB RIGHT this time, because it wasn't the Israeli that the U.S. was saving every time it stopped a middle east conflict it was the Arabs.
 
If Curious George W(tf) Bush ever found itself in combat, it would throw its feces and bananas and pretzels at the enemy.
 
I think George has all the balls he needs it take balls to strap yourself into a high performance aircraft and just take it off the ground, you definitely have to stay in front of the curve or you end up spreading you precious bodily fluids all over the landscape.
 
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