Deadly shooting at US university

draqon said:
I wonder what the rich VT studentz will learn now from this. probably only that to stay away from asians, especially south koreans. pity upon them fools.
They must change the way they handle other races, I see the same thing on my campus 2, the rich associate with the rich, jews with jews, asians with asians.
What will those kids in VT learn, I ask? Nothing. How many more deaths do they need to learn that they are wrong. This kid who killed 31 in VT, he is wrong, but so are all those in VT who let this happen, they obviously did not do anything to help him come into society.

With me at least its different, I do not need social acceptance. I have different goals.
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I've heard a lot of people talk about loneliness and alienation too and that includes Americans.
 
samcdkey said:
I've heard a lot of people talk about loneliness and alienation too and that includes Americans.
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...you heard them speak and what did you do? You talked with them. It healed them, just like it healed me.

He at VT, was an outcast, the hate gathered inside him, the hate for everyday he goes on further and sees that every effort is nothing to compared to those coming from rich families. That hate as a result of their inaction, is what caused these deaths.
 
It seems that most people here don't get it, the guy was a loser, and your trying to understand him as a rational person, that is your mistake, the guy wasn't rational, he was irrational, and didn't care that he was, he didn't seek any help for his problems, he just took his piss off out on the nearest people that he had in his reach, you are trying to understand this as a rational act and it was any thing but rational, banning guns won't stop this from happening, placing a police officer on every corner won't stop this from happening, making schools a gun free zone won't stop this from happening, all it will do is make it safe for the walking pieces of self centered shit to kill easier, The government doesn't have to protect you, the police don't have to protect you, that is case law in ever country that I can find the information on, it is up to you to protect your self, that means start making a plan think it out, look for what your going to do if this situation happens to you, and you are required to do the thinking before hand, either plan to defend your self, and make the choice to skirt the law by being armed, or get a CCW permit, plan a escape route from every place that you frequent, but do some planning before the situation ever happens, that means you have to be aware of your situation, ,you have to know were the escape route are, and you have to make you decisions as to what your going to do as it happens.
 
John99 said:
No, it's much more than that. Here is my assessment:

This guy was certifiable, lunatic, madman, insane...call it what you want. We can second guess but what is the point? he had a serious mental defect.

He voluntarilly went to a mental hospital because he knew something was seriously wrong. So what is the answer? The answer is removal from society.
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And yet he was able to legally purchase his guns.

But you are correct. The way in which the mentally ill had been treated in the past was terrible, virtually inhumane. However the way they are treated today is even worse as they basically get little to not care or treatment at all.

We spend so much on everything else, to the detriment of the mentally ill in society. This guy should have been in a mental institution and medicated. On the news in Australia, it has been reported that one of his teachers had approached the authorities, both at the school and the police as well I think about how disturbed she was by his writings in his essays and she felt he needed help. From what I heard, she was told that because he had not made a direct threat to anyone, they could not arrest him. However the point the authorities missed was that his writings were an indication of his decaying mental state. The teacher, and ultimately he, were both ignored. I wonder if he had been forced into a psychiatric evaluation from those writings and made to see a specialist, if the shootings would have occured? Hindsight is wonderful and sad isn't it?
 
Heh.
This is hilarious.
It's too bad this guy didn't decide to go on a hammering spree.

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But you are correct. The way in which the mentally ill had been treated in the past was terrible, virtually inhumane. However the way they are treated today is even worse as they basically get little to not care or treatment at all.
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He should have had a hole cut in his skull to let the demons out.

Anyway.
Anyone else bored with this shit yet?
Or am I just being a jaded American?

Someone asked somewhere why they're holding the memorial already. The answer: they have to get it out of the way before people stop giving a shit.
Too late for me.
Well, I really didn't give a shit that first day either...
 
invert_nexus said:
Heh.
This is hilarious.
It's too bad this guy didn't decide to go on a hammering spree.

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you found it hilarious? And so did people who saw his poems of death and killing. They laughed and didn't understand him. So he was laughed upon and understood. Until the day came he took out the gun...and 31 bodies collapsed from this life.
 
draqon said:
...you heard them speak and what did you do? You talked with them. It healed them, just like it healed me.

He at VT, was an outcast, the hate gathered inside him, the hate for everyday he goes on further and sees that every effort is nothing to compared to those coming from rich families. That hate as a result of their inaction, is what caused these deaths.
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I sometimes wonder, is it different for people brought up in the US? Do they prefer the hands off attitude?
 
Yes.
Well. Too bad for them.
They won the unlucky lottery.
Maybe I'll win too someday.
But not yet.

Did he hammer anyone to death though?

Anyway, is 31 deaths really that high a price to pay to rid ourselves of one broken human? Sure, if we had to pay such a price for every broken human, then it would be too high. But, if it only takes place occasionally (which it does) then it's not so bad.
Unless you're involved, that is. But, that's another story.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
It seems that most people here don't get it, the guy was a loser, and your trying to understand him as a rational person, that is your mistake, the guy wasn't rational, he was irrational, and didn't care that he was, he didn't seek any help for his problems, he just took his piss off out on the nearest people that he had in his reach, you are trying to understand this as a rational act and it was any thing but rational, banning guns won't stop this from happening, placing a police officer on every corner won't stop this from happening, making schools a gun free zone won't stop this from happening, all it will do is make it safe for the walking pieces of self centered shit to kill easier, The government doesn't have to protect you, the police don't have to protect you, that is case law in ever country that I can find the information on, it is up to you to protect your self, that means start making a plan think it out, look for what your going to do if this situation happens to you, and you are required to do the thinking before hand, either plan to defend your self, and make the choice to skirt the law by being armed, or get a CCW permit, plan a escape route from every place that you frequent, but do some planning before the situation ever happens, that means you have to be aware of your situation, ,you have to know were the escape route are, and you have to make you decisions as to what your going to do as it happens.
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I think its unreasonable to think of him as "different" or "abnormal". That is a way of distancing yourself from the incident, saying that a "normal" person would not behave like this. And its not about protecting yourself by buying guns and grenades, but preventing people from being damaged to this extent by understanding why anyone would do something like this.
 
draqon

He at VT, was an outcast, the hate gathered inside him, the hate for everyday he goes on further and sees that every effort is nothing to compared to those coming from rich families. That hate as a result of their inaction, is what caused these deaths.
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WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG, it was not the rich kids who were at fault for this, it was Cho Seung-Hui , he chose to do this irrational act for his own failure, it was his own failings that caused this act, and his failing s alone, none can make you fail except, you, your self, and to say other wise take the responsibility for this senseless act from were it belongs, on Cho Seung-Hui head alone, his own personnel failure taken out on others because he couldn't face the fact that he was the failure, so he destroyed 32 other lives for what? his failure, that is exactly what happened, Cho Seung-Hui destroyed 32 other lives because he could not face the fact that it was he, himself who was the failure.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
draqon



WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG, it was not the rich kids who were at fault for this, it was Cho Seung-Hui , he chose to do this irrational act for his own failure, it was his own failings that caused this act, and his failing s alone, none can make you fail except, you, your self, and to say other wise take the responsibility for this senseless act from were it belongs, on Cho Seung-Hui head alone, his own personnel failure taken out on others because he couldn't face the fact that he was the failure, so he destroyed 32 other lives for what? his failure, that is exactly what happened, Cho Seung-Hui destroyed 32 other lives because he could not face the fact that it was he, himself who was the failure.
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Noone is a failure in this life. His act was irrational but his life was not a failure.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
draqon



WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG, it was not the rich kids who were at fault for this, it was Cho Seung-Hui , he chose to do this irrational act for his own failure, it was his own failings that caused this act, and his failing s alone, none can make you fail except, you, your self, and to say other wise take the responsibility for this senseless act from were it belongs, on Cho Seung-Hui head alone, his own personnel failure taken out on others because he couldn't face the fact that he was the failure, so he destroyed 32 other lives for what? his failure, that is exactly what happened, Cho Seung-Hui destroyed 32 other lives because he could not face the fact that it was he, himself who was the failure.
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Agreed.

From what I've heard he (murderer) would ignore people that greeted him.

That guy is a murderer. What would people be saying if he was alive?
 
Ghost_007 said:
What would people be saying if he was alive?
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they would curse him. what else. They wouldn't care for his problems, but their own. And than 20 days after he is jailed, the prison cell guard will say that he tripped over and accidentally died.
 
draqon said:
they would curse him. what else. They wouldn't care for his problems, but their own. And than 20 days after he is jailed, the prison cell guard will say that he tripped over and accidentally died.
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Are you trying to justify his actions, please for fuck sake, think!

Countless people are bullied the World over, people are beaten, cursed and abused, do these victims go on to kill 31 completely innocent people (including teachers)?

The guy is a murderer.
 
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