Corona Virus 2019-nCoV

Sarkus said:
Maybe it’s an as yet unrecognised symptom of the actual virus? :eek:

Touch wood (or is that cloth? ... see what I did there! :D) my own ASDA has not yet experienced such “Black Friday” mania over toilet paper, but I suspect it is not far away. How quickly do you think the virus will spread 80 miles from Balham?? :)
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Trouble is it spreads over the internet, TV and radio.

But I think it is taking over here now because we already have suspected cases around us. My son had a piano lesson by skype, because a parent at the nursery school attended by the daughter of his piano teacher tested +ve, closing the school at least temporarily. The piano teacher is worried that sharing a keyboard could be a jolly good way to spread the virus. She has a point.

At my father's nursing home and at my son's school, people are now touching elbows instead of shaking hands.

These things make people wonder what they would do if they had to isolate themselves at home for a fortnight - and so they buy stuff. Why bog rolls, I do not know. I'm told tinned things and dry food like pasta are also selling fast. Possibly bog rolls empty quickly because they are so big that the supermarkets cannot put very many units out on the shelves. If so, a small uptick in demand could clear the shelves quickly - but I'm just speculating.

My guess is once people in your area know someone who has been tangentially affected in this way, the panic buying will start.
 
What's in a name?
from cdc
The virus has been named “SARS-CoV-2” and the disease it causes has been named “coronavirus disease 2019” (abbreviated “COVID-19”).
SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome)

Here in the US
the hotspot, and all deaths are in Washington state near Seattle
doing a genetic sequence, it was found that 2 people(unknown to each other) separated by time(6 weeks) and distance had the same rare genetic variant of the virus
leading a local healthcare worker to speculate that, either the disease was already spreading through the community(by many people who were asymptomatic), or, that the incubation period was longer that 2 weeks.
 
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According to WHO reports,
global growth in confirmed cases outside China, last 24 hours is about 15.59%
 
Notes on Russia:
Currently according to the WHO Russia has only 7 confirmed cases.
Russian media are starting to question the Governments transparency.
The number of issues in Russia could be and most likely will be considerably more than reported.

According to WHO
Outside of China growth in confirmed cases for the last 24 hours is approx. 17.2%
This 24 hour growth figure ( 17.2%) is dependent on accurate global reporting and as mentioned Russia, and other nations may be seriously under reporting due to a lack of testing capacity, political suppression, just plain ignorance/denial or other..
 
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Sarkus said:
Touch wood (or is that cloth? ... see what I did there! :D) my own ASDA has not yet experienced such “Black Friday” mania over toilet paper, but I suspect it is not far away. How quickly do you think the virus will spread 80 miles from Balham?? :)
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Breaking news:
Local supermarket shelves devoid of toilet and kitchen paper!

So, I went to my local ASDA on Friday after work, laughing about the silliness that Balham Sainsbury's had empty shelves... only to find the stupidity had spread to the south of the country. :( I haven't seen any face masks yet, though, but if I see them the next time I'm at the shops then my next observation will be not seeing 1,000,000 GBP in my bank account. ;)
 
The preppers in the USA should be in full survivalist mode by now...
USA 537 confirmed cases
Testing kits scarce.
Many more likely undetected/tested.
 
Sarkus said:
Breaking news:
Local supermarket shelves devoid of toilet and kitchen paper!

So, I went to my local ASDA on Friday after work, laughing about the silliness that Balham Sainsbury's had empty shelves... only to find the stupidity had spread to the south of the country. :( I haven't seen any face masks yet, though, but if I see them the next time I'm at the shops then my next observation will be not seeing 1,000,000 GBP in my bank account. ;)
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....cue circus music and clowns..........:D
 
iceaura said:
The WHO report, couple weeks back:
https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...na-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

Between the lines: They don't expect anybody except the Chinese will be able to contain a major infection.
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What is slightly concerning is the death rate in Italy (as a proportion of known cases), which seems to have reached 5%. I realise they have the most elderly population in Europe but even so it does make one slightly anxious to know what the real mortality rate is.
 
This new, but not unexpected by some people nobody else paid much attention to, viral disease is looking like a test of who TF do we think we are.

It's testing markets and market confidence; it's testing the reliance of economies on tourism and large numbers of people travelling daily, etc.
Confidence in what? In the ability of people to pay future debts, of course. How do you think those giant cruise ships get built? What's a cruise liner going for these days?
 
exchemist said:
The source of the initial outbreak was not known, so it was able to spread for a while before the authorities realised it was there.
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Didn't they have a super spreader travel from a conference in Singapore at the very start ( first cases )?
 
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arfa brane said:
This new, but not unexpected by some people nobody else paid much attention to, viral disease is looking like a test of who TF do we think we are.

It's testing markets and market confidence; it's testing the reliance of economies on tourism and large numbers of people travelling daily, etc.
Confidence in what? In the ability of people to pay future debts, of course. How do you think those giant cruise ships get built? What's a cruise liner going for these days?
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It certainly is testing national health systems or lack thereof.
 
Saint said:
Is Vatican also locked down?
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Pretty much, yeah. It’s tiny, and landlocked by Rome, so any lockdown of Rome would in essence lock down the Vatican as well. You may be able to walk about more freely within the Vatican, but they’ve closed all main places of potential gathering, such as their museum, so it’s going to be just as empty as the rest of Rome.
 
Just for the record...

Pandemic status declared by WHO.
12th, March, 2020 (AU time)

Coronavirus has officially been declared a pandemic by the World Health Organisation (WHO).
WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the number of cases outside of China had increased 13-fold in the past two weeks, but added "all countries can change the course of this pandemic".
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/coronavirus-updates-who-declares-pandemic/12047598

Outside of China 24 hour growth factor: 12.30%
early stages USA 24 hour growth factor: 32.18%
re: WHO SR 11th, March 2020
 
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