Christians attempt to censor opposition

[neoclassical]

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[deleted] REFUTES SUPERNATURALIST LIES

Alexandria, VA (September 28, 2004) - [deleted], labelled as a "hate site" and "anti-religion site," today refuted the feeble arguments of its enemies by pointing out that they, instead, are the haters.

"God is not provable, yet these people insist that all of us act as if he exists," said site administrator [deleted]. "Even worse, they want to program the rest of us with mind control that insists there is a supernatural realm. This is illogical, but if you don't accept this mental programming, they call you a hater, a criminal and a bigot, as the news articles about [deleted] illustrate."

Put online in the year 2000, the [deleted] site features articles, manifestos and links for those who oppose the religion of Judeo-Christianity.

"It's an error to say we are 'anti-religion' or against spirituality," continued [deleted]. "That's not true at all. We are opposed however to these crazy Middle Eastern religions, Christianity and Judaism. There's no mention on the site of Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Shintoism or Animism. These religions don't insist that you are either good or evil in a binary state of mind."

According to many expert psychologists, any system of thought in which there are only two possibilities causes a negative reinforcement loop in the minds of most people. "Look at it this way," said Dr. Howard Fineberg, of Houston, TX. "If someone tells you you're good, that means everyone else is bad. If they don't tell you that you are good, you assume you are bad and you'd better work to be good."

This form of mental control is unacceptable, says [deleted], and he blames it for many of the ills of our society. "People are being coerced every day into doing things that break their spirit, because they fear the label of 'bad' or 'evil' or 'hater.' This isn't a religion -- it's a system of control that uses fear to instill conformity in people, all for these mystical symbols that have no relation to reality. It's anti-reality. These people are haters - they hate reality."

[deleted] continues to maintain that the content on the site is not illegal, and that it is an important awareness raiser about a hidden issue in society. "No one dares mention that Christians and Jews are the ones pushing for 'crusades,' as President Bush called it, in the Middle East. Or that they're the ones who install these with-us-or-against-us punishment oriented programs like the War on Drugs or Internet censorship."

As of this date, there still remains zero scientific or philosophical proof that the supernatural realm described by Christianity and Judaism exists except as a method of control in the minds of its followers. For more information, please read the site materials on [deleted].

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[James R]

The site mentioned advocates criminal acts. It is not appropriate for sciforums to endorse this.

Thread closed.

 

[neoclassical]

ChurchArson.com vindicated

(JamesR, your moderator, asserts that this site advocates criminal acts and thus deleted links and locked the post. I say that's his personal bigotry talking. Get rid of JamesR now!)

Anti-religion Web site tests free speech laws

by TONY HOLT
Sunday staff writer

It is difficult to imagine anyone marvelling at the sorrowful image of [deleted]. But [deleted], a McLean-area Web designer, might see it as a small victory.

[deleted] said his Web site [deleted] uses [deleted] as a metaphor to illustrate his disdain for Christianity and Judaism. In his mind, if [deleted], many of society's shortcomings would disappear, he added.

[deleted] said. "Our interest is not the act, but what the symbolism means: total rejection of these supposedly 'peaceful' religions, because they are neurotic and cause rot deep within our souls and society as a whole."

[deleted] refused to provide information about the whereabouts of his operation and only answered questions via email. An Internet site listed an address in Tyson's Corner for the site's headquarters, but it was later learned to be the location of a local parcel service store. There was no confirmation about whether [deleted] was the Web site administrator's actual name or an alias, although he did admit to using the pseudonym [deleted]. No phone number ever was listed or provided for [deleted]. He also declined to identify his co-designers and people who assisted him with the technical aspects of the Web site.

"I realize this doesn't give you much of what you need, but perhaps you can see why we're somewhat cautious here," [deleted] said in response to the numerous requests for more information about him and his location. "I don't trust radical religious groups."

Kent Willis, the Director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia, believed nothing on the site would be deemed illegal, even if it explicitly suggested burning down a place of worship.

"The constitution forbids the government from forbidding anyone from advocating violations of the law, unless it incites an imminent lawless action," Willis said. "You almost have to be there leading the lawless action."

"If you can write a book that advocates taking up arms against the United States, then you ought to have a Web site that advocates [deleted]" Willis continued. "[It's illegal when] the nexus between what you're saying and what happens is very close - like if you're [deleted] - but society understands the difference."

The Anti-Defamation League, a New York-based group that describes itself as an organization that combats anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, has been aware of the Web site for more than a year. Representatives do not consider it illegal or dangerous, but they recently raised their alert level after recent aadditions to the sites - namely links to other sites that provoke religious hatred.

"It was created by a person who is anti-religion in general, [but] it's not illegal material," said Brian Marcus, Director of Internet Monitoring for ADL. "For it to be illegal, it would have to be a true incredible threat. This sight is very general... We don't feel it's part of an organized hate group, but we're looking at it again and we might reassess."

The most the ADL can do, typically, is alert those companies that provide the makers of the Web site with the tools to create their sight, Marcus said. Much like the way those who protest offensive music can turn to the record company and encourage them to pull those records off the shelves, ADL may do the same to Internet service providers."

"The ADL seems to make their living from defaming people," Prozak said. "I've seen their smear jobs and want no part of it."

[deleted] is the Internet provider for [deleted], Marcus said.

When contact over the phone, a [deleted] representative denied any knowledge of the site, but did not rule out the possibility it could be a descendant or an offshoot of another Web site they support.

"They could be a client of a client of ours - or a client of a client of a client of ours," he said. He declined to comment further and did not give his name.

[deleted] said approximately 3,600 Internet users visit the site daily and that has been the average for the last two years. [deleted] first created the site in 1997, but it did not resemble its current design until 2001.

Four others have helped [deleted] design the site and there are three more who assist him on "technical issues," he said.

Not every one who visits the [deleted] site endorses it message. Christians and Jews have been introduced to the site through Internet message board Free Republic and many of them have reacted harshly to what they have discovered on [deleted] site.

"Note to [deleted]...A lot of people that attend church own guns," one person wrote. Another reacted in ironic fashion when he stated, "Wouldn't THAT be something if [deleted]?"

[deleted] claimed he has often been accused of blasphemy and has even received numerous death threats.

"Christians routinely write in and tell us that our souls are damned, which seems a ridiculous thing to say, since we don't believe in their mystical orthodoxy," he said. "Jews tend to call us 'anti-Semites' and suggest that anyone who criticises Judaism be banned or punished."

[deleted] insisted he was not opposed to all organized religion and said he did not include Islam on the site because he does not want to be confused with groups who commit hate crimes against Arabs.

"By agreement, we decided not to address Islam on this Web site, as there's so much negative press about them that it's redundant," he said.

"Since the U.S. is at war with a Muslim nation and hate crimes have been committed against people for simply looking like Arabs, we want no part of that bandwagon. Islam, if it stays in the Middle East, doesn't concern us. In their countries, their rules apply."

The Journal, [deleted]

 

[FieryIce]

So your point is what?

 

[James R]

The second post here by neoclassical was merged from another thread on the same topic.