Chinese Scholar Yang Jian liang Putting Wrongs to Rights in Astrophysics

[heyuhua]

I've provided several examples.



It's not an either/or, silly!

Galaxies are being separated by expansion AND some are merging.

The expansion of the universe is an AVERAGE. All galaxies have motion with respect to each other.

As I have said, even if there was a so-called merger, it was extremely rare and cannot be the mechanism of galaxy formation. That is to say, if galaxies come from merger, then merger will be a common phenomenon, and the conclusion of cosmic expansion cannot be established.

 

[paddoboy]

As I have said, even if there was a so-called merger, it was extremely rare and cannot be the mechanism of galaxy formation. That is to say, if galaxies come from merger, then merger will be a common phenomenon, and the conclusion of cosmic expansion cannot be established.

Even if!!! Funny man!! Galaxies merge all the time, in the distant past, now, and in the future, and you showing your ignorance in denying that, in the face of all the evidence, most of which you have backed away from commenting on. The madness continues!!

 

[NotEinstein]

because Yang extrapolated the past based on the facts of today,

I take it you've never looked into COBE, WMAP, and the Planck satellite? How dumb to make such strong claims without first doing even the slightest research into them. That kind of behavior is a hindrance to the progress of science.

 

[Xelasnave.1947]

That kind of behavior is a hindrance to the progress of science.

He is not hindering science he is no where near it and if he stood directly in its path he would be run over without even the slightest bump or wimper.

Facts for this chap means whatever opinion he pulled out of his hat.

If he had the goods he would have said something sensible by now and not persist in talking nonsence.

Alex

 

[NotEinstein]

He is not hindering science he is no where near it and if he stood directly in its path he would be run over without even the slightest bump or wimper.

Facts for this chap means whatever opinion he pulled out of his hat.

If he had the goods he would have said something sensible by now and not persist in talking nonsence.

Alex

You are, of course, right. I stand corrected.

 

[heyuhua]

Even if!!! Funny man!! Galaxies merge all the time, in the distant past, now, and in the future, and you showing your ignorance in denying that, in the face of all the evidence, most of which you have backed away from commenting on. The madness continues!!

Your point of view is actually the current mainstream view, that's why I wrote these posts with the aim of telling people that the current mainstream theory is wrong. The mainstream theory itself is extremely inconsistent, for example, in order to get rid of the predicament of galaxy formation, the merger of galaxies was invented, not only is it not supported by any observations, but it contradicts existing observations that the universe is expanding.
Now, Yang's new cosmology theory tells us that galaxies are gradually growing and new matter is continuously formed in the celestial bodies，Not only is the space around galaxies expanding, but galaxies and objects themselves are expanding in the same way.

In fact, it has long been seen that the farther away galaxies are, the smaller, denser and darker galaxies are, which means that the earlier galaxies become smaller, galaxies come from gradual growth. In any way, Yang's theory is consistent, and consistent with observation.

 

[paddoboy]

Your point of view is actually the current mainstream view, that's why I wrote these posts with the aim of telling people that the current mainstream theory is wrong. The mainstream theory itself is extremely inconsistent, for example, in order to get rid of the predicament of galaxy formation, the merger of galaxies was invented, not only is it not supported by any observations, but it contradicts existing observations that the universe is expanding.

Yes, the mainstream position based on plenty of observational data, rather the the stupidity and crazy baseless fabricated nonsense you are claiming.

Now, Yang's new cosmology theory tells us that galaxies are gradually growing and new matter is continuously formed in the celestial bodies，Not only is the space around galaxies expanding, but galaxies and objects themselves are expanding in the same way

From what I have read, even Yang's paper, nor the other female cosmologist you linked to, support your crazy fabrications one bit. I see someone has said you have pulled them out of your hat. I believe they have actually been extracted from your rear end.
You [or yang] have not in the slightest invalidated the current mainstream model for galactic formation and mergers. Oh, and a question you have not answered as yet. Do you [or yang] have any access to any of the state of the art probes in orbit and beyond, like the HST, or Planck.or Chandra, or past probes such as WMAP or COBE?
It is painfully obvious that you are doing no more then trolling, and its a real shame the mods have not yet closed this thread and banished it to the sewer along with your nonsensical dreams.

 

[Xelasnave.1947]

You are, of course, right. I stand corrected.

I did not mean to sound that way but often we think folk like this are a threat to science which is not the case...
Anyways I am going to show him.
I will go thru all the gallaxies even though there are billions and billions of them and make a list of all the x pattens, and non x pattens and all the mergers all the near mergers all the potential mergers...well everything and then we will see if he can refute my findings...should only take about 225 years☺

Alex

 

[heyuhua]

Yes, the mainstream position based on plenty of observational data, rather the the stupidity and crazy baseless fabricated nonsense you are claiming.


From what I have read, even Yang's paper, nor the other female cosmologist you linked to, support your crazy fabrications one bit. I see someone has said you have pulled them out of your hat. I believe they have actually been extracted from your rear end.
You [or yang] have not in the slightest invalidated the current mainstream model for galactic formation and mergers. Oh, and a question you have not answered as yet. Do you [or yang] have any access to any of the state of the art probes in orbit and beyond, like the HST, or Planck.or Chandra, or past probes such as WMAP or COBE?
It is painfully obvious that you are doing no more then trolling, and its a real shame the mods have not yet closed this thread and banished it to the sewer along with your nonsensical dreams.

It is true that there are not many people who know Yang's new theory, but I believe that more and more people will understand it and make it a weapon for people to transform the world。Obviously, Yang's theory not only will have a great impact on cosmology and astrophysics, but also will have a great influence on any branch of physics. For example, Yang's theory tells us that baryon number conservation is only an approximate law in a small range and a short period of time., matter is continuously generated in bodies, coal and oil are being generated in succession, and earthquakes are a sign of the growth of the earth, and In the future, substances may be manufactured manually In a word, Yang's theory is closely integrated with practice, unlike the mainstream cosmology theory, without any practical significance.

 

[paddoboy]

It is true that there are not many people who know Yang's new theory, but I believe that more and more people will understand it and make it a weapon for people to transform the world。Obviously, Yang's theory not only will have a great impact on cosmology and astrophysics, but also will have a great influence on any branch of physics. For example, Yang's theory tells us that baryon number conservation is only an approximate law in a small range and a short period of time., matter is continuously generated in bodies, coal and oil are being generated in succession, and earthquakes are a sign of the growth of the earth, and In the future, substances may be manufactured manually In a word, Yang's theory is closely integrated with practice, unlike the mainstream cosmology theory, without any practical significance.

Keeping repeating nonsense does not make it any more valid. It just reflects on you and your agenda and ignorance.

 

[heyuhua]

Keeping repeating nonsense does not make it any more valid, it just reflects on you and your agenda and ignorance.

you are keeping repeating nonsense does not make it any more valid, it just reflects on you and your agenda and ignorance, and on the contrary, what I have written is very timely, because it is the work of explaining Yang's theory to people. Of course, my written explanation or exposition is not just for you to read. I believe that through this forum, more and more people will understand Yang's revolutionary theory.

 

[paddoboy]

you are keeping repeating nonsense does not make it any more valid, it just reflects on you and your agenda and ignorance, and on the contrary, what I have written is very timely, because it is the work of explaining Yang's theory to people. Of course, my written explanation or exposition is not just for you to read. I believe that through this forum, more and more people will understand Yang's revolutionary theory.

I'm not repeating nonsense and have plenty of observational evidence to support that mainstream position. You on the other hand, have nothing other then dreams and wishful thinking....Your dreams be lost in the dust and will be unheard of in 12 months time.

 

[heyuhua]

I'm not repeating nonsense and have plenty of observational evidence to support that mainstream position. You on the other hand, have nothing other then dreams and wishful thinking....Your dreams be lost in the dust and will be unheard of in 12 months time.

You're in a rut, modern science is developing rapidly, and there's plenty of evidence that the solar system is expanding, including the Earth is expanding, the Earth is moving away from the sun, and the moon is moving away from the Earth， there are solid observations that you can't deny.

Only Yang's theory can deal systematically and uniformly with these new and old observations.

 

[heyuhua]

Let's call it quits, I won't play with you. My posts are for others to read，and you don't have to look,to avoid being scared

 

[paddoboy]

You're in a rut, modern science is developing rapidly, and there's plenty of evidence that the solar system is expanding, including the Earth is expanding, the Earth is moving away from the sun, and the moon is moving away from the Earth， there are solid observations that you can't deny.
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I'm not denying the Moon moving away from Earth, and Earth from Sun because of the effects of tidal gravitation...not because of any unsupported nonsense that you have previously claimed.

Only Yang's theory can deal systematically and uniformly with these new and old observations

Yang's claims will be lost in the dust and never heard of in 12 months...as will your unsupported fairy tales.

Let's call it quits, I won't play with you. My posts are for others to read，and you don't have to look,to avoid being scared

I'm not playing, I'm simply refuting your nonsense and childishness, along with everyone else on this forum and mainstream science in general.
ps: Forums such as this are open to any Tom, Dick or Harry, or heyuhua, to post whatever nonsense they like. You would be shut down by now on any other forum, and your nonsense moved to trash...This forum let's you continue, as they rather prefer quantity over quality and it gives other members a bit of a laugh.
If you don't believe me, try somewhere else and see how far you get.

 

[paddoboy]

But you are correct with relation to the title of this thread in that you are putting wrongs to rights.

 

[heyuhua]

I'm not denying the Moon moving away from Earth, and Earth from Sun because of the effects of tidal gravitation...not because of any unsupported nonsense that you have previously claimed.

Yang's claims will be lost in the dust and never heard of in 12 months...as will your unsupported fairy tales.

I'm not playing, I'm simply refuting your nonsense and childishness, along with everyone else on this forum and mainstream science in general.
ps: Forums such as this are open to any Tom, Dick or Harry, or heyuhua, to post whatever nonsense they like. You would be shut down by now on any other forum, and your nonsense moved to trash...This forum let's you continue, as they rather prefer quantity over quality and it gives other members a bit of a laugh.
If you don't believe me, try somewhere else and see how far you get.

Do you know how far tide can pull the moon back in a year? I'm telling you, the actual distance measured now is 4 centimeters a year. If these four centimeters are all tidal dissipative contributions, the Earth's rotation cycle would be about 2.7 milliseconds slower in a century, which is in serious conflict with the 0.8 milliseconds observed. But according to Yang's theory, the moon's back distance due to Hubble inflation is 2.7 centimeters a year, and the tide causes it to retreat 1.3 centimeters, then there is no contradiction to appear. This means that the tides can only cause the moon to go back 1.3 centimeters a year, and the remaining 2.7 centimeters are the result of Hubble expansion。Note that in Yang's theory, although space-time expansion expands the orbit and the celestial body grows, doesn't change the cycles of rotation or revolution, and periodic variations stem from tides and perturbations. This means that, if tides and other perturbations are ignored, the rotation or revolution period of the celestial body will not change even though its orbit is expanding and its mass is increasing due to space-time expansion.

The increase in the distance between the sun and the earth can only be explained by Hubble expansion, because the tides make the Earth's orbit smaller, not larger.

 

[heyuhua]

“Forums such as this are open to any Tom, Dick or Harry, or heyuhua, to post whatever nonsense they like. You would be shut down by now on any other forum, and your nonsense moved to trash...This forum let's you continue, as they rather prefer quantity over quality and it gives other members a bit of a laugh.
If you don't believe me, try somewhere else and see how far you get.”

There is no fuss about this. The history of science tells us that any new theory will be attacked, ridiculed, and even persecuted by reactionary forces when it first emerges. The more revolutionary the theory, the easier it is to be blocked，which is already an open secret.

 

[DaveC426913]

Isn't your distribution based on ridiculous guesses?

No. It's based on actual science.

Even you must acknowledge that it was uneven. If it were not distributed unevenly, no galaxies, no stars and no humans would ever have formed in the first place. Every atom in the universe would be the same distance apart and expanding uniformly. That is not what we see.

 

[DaveC426913]

The history of science tells us that any new theory will be attacked

Well except that

• it's not a theory,
• it is demonstrably falsified by observational evidence (several examples of which have appeared in this very thread),
• you're exhibiting scientific illiteracy, and
  
• you have your fingers in your ears, saying lalala.