China Bans American Marxist Media: Wants Intelligent Media Instead

I've always found people from other western nations, and even some eastern ones, to be far more educated and knowledgeable of the world than the typical American.
I find the average people from everywhere to be pretty much the same. They are concerned and knowledgeable with what affects them directly, a few cherished beliefs and ideologies, and not too much else.

Remember that you have to account for scope. A Frenchman knowing something about Spain is like a New Yorker who knows something about New Jersy. You also have to account for location, people living in urban areas tend to have a broader range of knowledge than rural.

Supporting oppressive regimes through money and arm sales is virtually the same. It's our hardware keeping their countries economically viable for us.
I would count direct monitary funding for military and arms sales to be military activities. I'm contrasting that as well as direct involvement with say, shipping food or making a trade agreement.

And what, btw, is wrong with helping a country towards economic viability?

~Raithere
 
Seems to me that the goals are typically stated quite clearly. We will do x and y if you do a and b.

So it’s only wrong when the US does it. How do you justify such a statement?

How do you reach such a conclusion? Its wrong regardless of who does it.
Does the fact that other countries also do it make it alright for the US to do it?
How does putting a disadvantaged country into debt through aid help the people of that country? How can it even be justified?

The question is not who is guilty of “torture” but who is not:

http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-313/index

They do it too is NOT a justification.

It’s fun to watch you wiggle sam. Where in that article does it show the US ignoring agreements on forced or child labor?

So has the US signed the International Labour Organisation's Convention 138?
Which puts minimum age of labor for children at 15?

http://library.thinkquest.org/03oct/01908/1024/childlaborus_childlabor.htm

Hidden slaves:
http://www.hrcberkeley.org/research/hiddenslaves.html

To create jobs instead of supplanting them? Once again, I need clarification about what you mean here. Do you mean that instead of offering manufacturing jobs and having the local population leave farming we should offer farming jobs? That kind of thing?
No I mean supplanting farms growing food that supports the local people with cash crops.

I'm talking about structural adjustment policies
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/SAP.asp

And farm subsidies that destroy local farmers
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0506-09.htm

As a condition for helping Jamaica service its large foreign debt, international lending agencies demanded that the country keep its tariffs low. The government was unable to bar American sugar, grain, and other food products from the island, so its own farmers were stuck.

But this analysis, which is typical of many "progressive" complaints about trade and globalization, seriously missed its mark. And if you were watching last week as the U.S. Congress moved toward passage of a massive new farm-subsidy bill, the real source of Jamaican farmers' problems became apparent.

The farm bill, which the House of Representatives has approved and which the Senate could vote on this week, calls for taxpayers to fork over some $180 billion to farmers during the next decade. That's a 70 percent hike above the cost of current farm-subsidy programs, most of which represent direct payments to wealthy farmers and agribusinesses.

Those subsidies make it possible to export millions of tons of food so cheaply that native farmers in places such as Jamaica can't possibly compete.

By guaranteeing U.S. farmers a minimum payment for commodities such as corn, rice and soybeans, the government encourages overproduction. That drives down the market price, forcing even higher subsidies and creating surpluses that can be shipped to Jamaica and elsewhere.
I wasn’t proposing that it did. The US has unbalanced some areas and displaced some people with poorly considered aid attempts. Unfortunately, politicians often make decisions without properly considering the long term effects.

Ok
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. Are you daft or just brainwashed?
More than half of ALL food assistance in the world but you know, I’m sure none of it has helped anyone. It’s all just a US plot to destabilize foreign economies. Your wanton ignorance pisses me off sam.

Do you think it makes me happy? Exploitation is the sad truth of the world today. Who really cares about poor people?

While the U.S. was the single biggest provider, it and other major donors often channel supplies through third parties. Thus, multilateral agencies, such as the World Food Program (WFP), provided 51 percent of food aid delivered in 2003; NGOs, 28 percent; and bilateral sources, such as national aid agencies, 21 percent, according to a WFP report published last year.

Last year, the major recipients included Ethiopia, North Korea, Sudan, Bangladesh and Eritrea.

Washington's dominance of the global food aid picture has made it the subject of two major complaints at the World Trade Organization (WTO).

First, while the monetization of food aid generates money for NGOs to pursue other aid activities, according to the report, it also reduces prices for local producers and traders in poor countries, effectively rigging the market against them. All such programs should be phased out, according to the report.

Second, export credits provided to U.S. agribusiness result in food dumping -- overseas sales of food for less than the costs of production. According to the report, the EU has now put forward a proposal at the WTO, which will be taken up at the next Ministerial Meeting in Hong Kong in December, requiring all food aid to be cash-based and untied from requirements that it originate in the donor country.

U.S. food aid is currently provided under six different programs controlled by two different bureaucracies, the Agriculture Department and the US Agency for International Development (USAID). That results in administrative confusion and some duplication, according to the report.

What makes U.S. food aid more objectionable, however, is the ”iron triangle” of interest groups that are its greatest beneficiaries. These groups -- agribusiness, shipping companies, and NGOs -- enjoy a ”stranglehold on food aid practice,” according to the report, perpetuating a dysfunctional system through their influence on Congress and the government.

Under U.S. law, for example, a minimum of 75 percent of U.S. food aid must be sourced, fortified, processed and bagged in the U.S., and only a handful of firms, notably Cargill and Archer-Daniels Midland (ADM) are qualified to bid on the procurement contracts. The result is that the government has paid on average about 11 percent more than open-market prices for food aid.

U.S. law similarly requires that 75 percent of all food aid must be transported on U.S.-flagged vessels, despite the fact that the shipping industry has been failing over the past few decades and currently handles only three percent of all U.S. imports and exports (excluding food aid) and, according to recent study, cost nearly 80 percent more than foreign-bulk carriers using the same routes with similar cargo.

While NGOs take pride in keeping their costs low and in using the money made from food aid sales to help the poor, they find themselves supporting a system that threatens local producers and traders in the interests of maintaining ”an important revenue stream for ...funding of their ongoing development work,” according to the report.

Other food aid donors provide much of their food aid to NGOs in the form of cash, precisely to avoid harming local markets and hence, long-term food security.

IATP is calling for a transition to an untied, cash-based food aid system, including the phasing out of all sales of food aid and monetization; the imposition of strict limits, except in cases of emergencies, on shipping food aid over long distances; much-greater efforts at increasing domestic food production in poor countries; and the abandonment of policies promoted by the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund that require countries to invest more in export crops in countries where such strategies have failed to improve the plight of the poor.

”African farmers are capable of producing a lot more food for their communities and nearby regions,” according to McAfee. ”But policies of the U.S., the WTO, and the World Bank promote the use of African land and resources for export crops instead, and many African governments neglect agriculture for domestic food needs. This must change, or hunger will increase."

And:

http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/1016

The US refused to sign a UN declaration to fight hunger and poverty because part of the discussion surrounding the statement called for levying a global tax on financial transactions as well as arms sales. The declaration was signed by 110 heads of state and was the result of a meeting of leaders from 50 nations on Monday ahead of the 59th UN General Assembly. The declaration followed the release of a UN study that found that over one billion people in the world live on less than $1 per day.

Debatable issues sam not to mention more selective data picking. Training groups in interrogation techniques does not mean national approval of massacring children. And in most instances brutality and human rights violations are being committed on both sides so no matter who we support we’re indirectly supporting such atrocities. So should we support the bad guys who will deal with us or the bad guys who won’t?

What about the bad guys at home?

Virginia-based homeland security services contractor CACI International, whose private interrogators have been linked to torture at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, said its bottom line increased 42 percent over the last year. From June 2003 to June 2004, which marks CACI's fiscal year, net income rose to $63.7 million.


During April, May and June of 2004 -- the months after allegations of CACI's involvement in the Abu Ghraib torture scheme -- CACI's profits soared 56 percent to just over $20 million. In April, an internal Army report said a CACI interrogator instructed soldiers working at Abu Ghraib to set conditions for interrogations and said he "clearly knew his instructions equated to physical abuse."

CACI has provided the US Army with over three dozen interrogators in Iraq since August 2003 as part of a $23 million technology contract awarded to the company. On August 12, CACI received a no-bid extension from the Army, worth up to another $23 million, to continue its work in Iraq. The Pentagon has opened an investigation into the torture scheme, but has so far declined to punish CACI for any potential involvement.

CACI, in an internal investigation, cleared its workers of any wrongdoing. The company is, nonetheless, the subject of at least two civil racketeering lawsuits related to charges of torture.


Oh BS. You have no point as far as I can see. You don’t care if every other country does the same thing, you cherry pick your data, you ignore anything positive the US does. How can you possibly claim to have a more objective understanding about any of this than the average American?

Whatever.
 
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