What is your definition of foreign policy?
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What is your definition of foreign policy?
I figured you'd try to snake out of it!!! But lest you forget, it was YOU, Sam, who first made that accusation. And thus it's YOUR definition that's important at this time.
So ....when you made that statement, what did YOU have in mind????
Baron Max
I want to know your definition of foreign policy to be clear what we are talking about. You are American, right? What do you think of when you think of US foreign policy?
Trying to wiggle out of it now, Sam?! YOU were the one who made the accusation, so please give us your evidence of the fucked up US "foreign policy" that's ruining the entire fuckin' world, okay?
It was YOUR accusation, Sam, so please be forthcoming.
Baron Max
So if you don't agree with my accusation, tell me why.
Baron Max said:
For example, tell me why this is not foreign policy when the US government (and taxpayers) heavily subsidize these corporations.
No, Sam, I ain't gonna' let you out of this one!! I'll keep asking you until you finally give up ....and hang your head in shame at making an accusation against the US that you can't back up and, worse, you can't let go of because it's primary in your hatred of the US.
Now ..........
YOU made the accusation about US foreign policy ......NOW please tell us what foreign policy you meant?
Nope, that's not government foreign policy!! That's tax incentives and/or subsides, etc and it's given to many corporations that have nothing to do with them thar' damned furrinners!
Baron Max
of course it's anti-Israel! much more so than CNN, which has a strong anti-Israel bias too.
and Ha'Aretz is in the extreme left of the Israeli political spectrum. not the fringe, but they're extreme enough. the good thing about them is that at least they admit they are left. that's the thing with Israeli politics / media. they are honestly admitting their bias, unlike CNN / BBC, who claim they have none.
Hmmm, sounds impressive, Sam, but which US law or laws would that be? I don't get it, Sam, you've given me innuendo, but no laws or even stated US foreign policy. In reality, it seems that you've erroneously made the connection between government and private enterprise. That won't work, Sam, and you know it.
Besides, now you've made even more allegations against the US, but have provided no evidence or facts to back it up. If you're gonna' continue to make false allegations, then you need some evidence ...which you haven't presented in any form or fashion.
You're quick to make accusations, Sam, but damned slow to back 'em up!!
Baron Max
Do you mean to say that US government actions in other countries are against the law? That any actions of US foreign corporations subsidised by US taxpayers have no basis in US government policy?
This is exactly why I want you to define what you call US policy. What, in your opinion, is a definition of US foreign policy?
Again, how is this surprising, or different than anywhere else? It seems to me this is the rule and not the exception.
Foreigners are always sterotyped. Whenever I have traveled abroad and told people I am from Chicago the reponse is, "Chicago. Bang! Bang!" or something quite similar. As if it's still the roaring 20's and Capone controlls the city. And typically the sterotypes I've held have been proven wrong as well. The reality is always different and far more complex.
~Raithere
Of course we do.
And they make laws and agreements so that they can sell their cars, wine, textiles, etc, etc, etc, here.
~Raithere
Foreigners may be stereotyped, what about the effects of your own government policies abroad?
Are Americans aware of the costs of maintaining their status of living to people from other countries?
Huh??? What the fuck are you talkin' about??
Sam, those same subsidies and tax incentives are given to other corporations that never set foot on foreign soil! Those things are just economic incentives or whatever, with no necessary connection to the State Department. You've made that connect all on your own, when in fact there's not evidence of that kind of thing happening.
It's a law or ruling or edict that clearly outlines what the US is planning to do in or for another nation. It's a legal issue of government rules.
A good example, I think, might be that the US has made specific laws about US corporations selling or trading weapons of war. There are some nations that private corporations can sell to, and some that they can't. THAT would be considered "government policy" or "foreign policy".
What you've been trying to say as "foreign policy" is simply corporations doing business in other nations ...strictly private business. And that ain't got shit to do with the US government or US foreign policy!
Baron Max
WHAT GOVERNMENT POLICIES?????
Sam, you can't just keep using that fuckin' term without having some idea of what the fuck you're talkin' about! Please be specific when you make those allegations!!
Baron Max
Which ones? What laws? Please be specific, and please make sure that it's "government laws".
Baron Max
A government that is not out to protect its strategic interests is not doing its job sam. You're also cherry picking, selecting only negative influences of some US actions and attributing many actions motivated by the cold-war rather than general policy positions.
Why, after all did the UN vote not to go into Iraq? Because Saddam had bribed France, China, and Russia with kickbacks and agreements for proprietary oil rights(1). Not because they had some moral standing against it. Read past the propaganda.
(1) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1291280_1,00.html
~Raithere
Most people are unaware of almost everything, whether they be American or some other nationailty.
If you're asking me I need clarification. Are you asking about the costs of political/military activities or economic ones?
~Raithere