canada has the us on its list of nations that torture. they send this lists to their diplomats and how to see if one of their people was tortured.
canada has the us on its list of nations that torture
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Why, why do you seem to ALWAYS start these things without a reference? It very well may be true but we'd sure like more than just YOUR word on it !
i just did
Then next time have enough courtesy to include it in the first post.
Barbaric,savage and unneeded.
A couple of years ago various newspapers in england, printed pictures of UK soliers urinating,beating and torturing iraqi prisoners.
6 weeks later peirs morgan who was the editor of the sun at the time admits to faking the photographs in studio, the only puishment he faced was sack as editor, then when on to present tv shows.
He was not charged with inciting terrorism, preaching racial hatred in fact was not charged with anything at all.
It's been known for years about deprevation torture at guatanamo bay.
on that thread he mentions that great britain are the US allies, and do not support torture, I would point out that only the government and a small % of the pop support this conflict and could be classed as allies, and the government took no action over faked torture photo's.(and a short while later london was bombed).
I will watch how this unfolds good thread
A couple of years ago various newspapers in england, printed pictures of UK soliers urinating,beating and torturing iraqi prisoners.
6 weeks later peirs morgan who was the editor of the sun at the time admits to faking the photographs in studio, the only puishment he faced was sack as editor, then when on to present tv shows.
He was not charged with inciting terrorism, preaching racial hatred in fact was not charged with anything at all.
It's been known for years about deprevation torture at guatanamo bay.
on that thread he mentions that great britain are the US allies, and do not support torture, I would point out that only the government and a small % of the pop support this conflict and could be classed as allies, and the government took no action over faked torture photo's.(and a short while later london was bombed).
I will watch how this unfolds good thread
Hey, easy now - you had the same problem with him that I did. And it IS on topic if it will help to provoke him to do better in the future.
Thank you - and NOW back to the main subject...
Assuming "us" = U.S, since when did Americans really give a shit what Canadians think of them.
Hint : We think a whole lotta stuff about you guys(generalizations mostly).
Hint : We think a whole lotta stuff about you guys(generalizations mostly).
More than anything I'm shocked my government actually found its balls for this issue. Maybe being placed on a torture list, by one of it's closest allies, together with the likes of Iran and Syria, will slap some sense into the US administration.
Holding a 15 year old Canadian without charge and (allegedly) torturing him is a new low for the US. I doubt even Iran or Syria could match that.
Holding a 15 year old Canadian without charge and (allegedly) torturing him is a new low for the US. I doubt even Iran or Syria could match that.
they can't
is it they can't because of the age??
or can't be held idefinately
lawyers in britain around 12 months or so ago had to go to court to get 3 british muslim's who had been held without charge for 3 years, i think the longest time was.
Zero is a country?
ok, NONE. Even brought down to a personal level, to save your childs life etc. i really think everyone here would and if you would not it is not because of moral compulsion but because they just cannot do it.
Would you waterboard someone to save your childs life? Nooooo, of course not.
Would you waterboard someone to save your childs life? Nooooo, of course not.
they cannot match it because as far as i have researched and heard they have never detained a national of another country who was under 18 and tortured them.
the british detainees were over 18.
I can't see a 15 year old as living long enough to have a political veiwpoint strong enough to resort to terrorism. Unless it had been thrust upon him since a young age by peers,whereby he wouldn't know any different so other means could have been used.
To detain anybody without charge doesn't make sense to me, as I don't see what is gained apart from illiminating a potential threat or holding him 'just in case'.
As the US have gone against the UN on other things, have some bills on human rights had there pages turned over??
I've just looked at [UN convention against TORTURE] sorry don't know how to leave the address so you can click on it. if you go to the bottom and click on the signatures, you can see who did sign ,who did not, at the very bottom the last country under the heading 'STATES WHICH HAVE SIGNED BUT NOT YET RATIFIED THE CONVENTION AGAINST TORTURE BIT' so they have not yet really agreed to the treaty.Also suprisingly for me belgium and iceland are also there?
na. Canadians....