Can my unconscious have its own unconscious?

DaveC426913

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I had a dream last night. It'll take me a bit to land this plane so bear with me...

I dreamed my gaming buddies and I were playing in a Time Traveling Adventurers RPG campaign that consisted of five episodes.

In the first four episodes, we bopped around historical North America, righting various wrongs and stuff. The fifth episode I was summarizing for one of the other players, telling her how the Turks were marching through New orleans area, and that now we were Turks, as if it was just a minor detail.

She said: "Wait. Turks, as in: from Turkey? The other side of the world? What are they doing in New Orleans?"

I said yeah, but I didn't really have an explanation at the time. Her father stepped in from the other room and sat down to say "OK. Turks are now marching on Southern States and you are Turks? Lay it on me."

And I said "Well, I'm not really sure how this happ..." and I had an epiphany in the dream. "Ohhhhh. This is a time travel genre... In the first four episodes we must have changed history so much that the Turkisj Empire (I guess that'd be the Ottoman) managed to make it to America before the Europeans and so WE are not European but are - in the version of history we created - Turkish!"

And the GM stood and took a bow at us having solved the great mystery and paradox of the campaign. It was brilliant.

What is significant about this has nothing to do with the game or the plot, but that I was able to keep a secret from myself. I dreamt the progression of four episodes that had a paradox/mystery in them of which I eas entirely unaware at that point. But I figured it out after-the-fact.

The strange thinf is that there was, in fact, a secret to be figured out. And that secret was already in place at the startof the dream.

How could I set up a story in my dream - like an novel author, setting up plot points - if - unlike that author - I am not aware of the outcome, and yet there was an outcome that had to be set up?

It's as if my unconscious, which was dreaming, had its own unconscious that was keeping a secret from me, which was revealed later in the dream...
 
Sounds like a typical dream to me. My avatar or oneiric POV seldom (if ever) has any access to what the "generative" part of my "quisecent" brain is up to. During lucid dreams I can wrest control of the simulated environment from the base of operations, but that's still not an invitation to tour the Command Center and witness what is being planned there when it's running the show.
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Sounds like a typical dream to me. My avatar or oneiric POV seldom (if ever) has any access to what the "generative" part of my "quisecent" brain is up to. During lucid dreams I can wrest control of the simulated environment from the base of operations, but that's still not an invitation to tour the Command Center and witness what is being planned there when it's running the show.
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I like that
We are strangers in our own country.(well I am ,anyway)

A bit like Van Morrison's Astral Weeks
"If I ventured into the slipstream
Between the viaducts of your dream..

In another world, darling
In another world
In another time
Got a home on high
Ain’t nothing but a stranger in this world
I’m nothing but a stranger in this world


I got a home on high
In another land
So far away
So far away
Way up in the heaven
Way up in the heaven
Way up in the heaven
Way up in the heaven
Ooh, ooh"
 
"In Western art history, mise en abyme is a formal technique in which an image contains a smaller copy of itself, in a sequence appearing to recur infinitely."

It has always struck me how feedback loops and interations produce a recursive flight into infinity. Hold a mic too close to a speaker and the runaway signal is earsplitting. Point two mirrors at each other and the tunnel to infinity appears before you. A dream within a dream within a dream..where would that infinity lead?

 
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